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  • I am talking about XMPP being almost 3 decades old

    This is not the win you think it is.

    Don’t believe all the disinformation you read online

    I’m not reading anything, I’ve actually used it.

    perhaps you could cite some?

    I already did. Have you not used Discord? Are you just completely oblivious to the popularity the platform has achieved in 1/3 the time that XMPP has been around, and seen massive adoption? Ask yourself why that is.

    In other words, you can’t simply say “XMPP sucks because this unmaintained client is ugly”.

    Uhhhh I absolutely can when all of the clients are ugly and dated. Movim doesn’t even have a client at all, its just a PWA, which is a really poor experience.

    You just come across as someone who doesn’t know much about the subject.

    I don’t, and I shouldn’t need to. Good software doesn’t require vast amounts of research, you just use it. I’ve used 100 different XMPP clients and softwares and they all deliver a poor experience after only a few minutes of use.









  • Then it’s even worse: if the goal is this, why give up on almost 3 decades of expertise solving that very problem?

    I have no idea what you’re talking about.

    In which way, exactly?

    In the way of usability. XMPP is actually a hodgepodge of different protocols sewn together and inconsistent across apps and servers. Fluxer has many many features that XMPP does not offer. If you’re familiar with Discord, you already know what those are.

    You cornered yourself into precisely NOT being able to invoke existing client shortcomings.

    Again, no idea what you’re talking about.

    Fluxer should just have been another XMPP client

    No, because as I’ve already explained, XMPP is terrible.