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She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge.

Harris also managed what neither Joe Biden nor Hillary Clinton nor any of the 2016 Republicans managed to do which is successfully bait Donald Trump and get under his skin. Within a few minutes Trump was visibly angry and not in a way that empowered him but in a way that made him lose focus, go down rabbit holes and generally go off onto damaging tangents. Spittle anger, not righteous anger, shall we say.

  • Gerudo@lemm.ee
    27·
    3 months ago

    So I flipped over to Fox News right after to see how they would spin the debate. Everyone spins this stuff, it’s normal, but after that debate, I wanted to see how bad it would be. Well, Hannity was on, and you can imagine how it went. They said Harris was weak, didn’t have answers or dodged the questions, had weird faces, and then they just regurgitated his flat-out lies.

    I couldn’t even watch 10 minutes because it was so painfully obvious they were just lying through their teeth, and it was so desperate sounding that to a non-R voter, it came across as them not even watching the debate.

    There is spin, then there is flat out lieing.

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
      16·
      3 months ago

      I couldn’t even watch 10 minutes because it was so painfully obvious they were just lying through their teeth, and it was so desperate sounding that to a non-R voter, it came across as them not even watching the debate.

      I think that may be their strategy. They assume a lot of their base doesn’t want to watch the debate, instead they just tune in after the fact, and they get the bizarro universe account of what happened presented as fact and thus feel more validated in their beliefs.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
      101·
      3 months ago

      It’s crazy how much things have changed in 8 years. Before Trump came on the scene, Fox was very biased, but their stories had a basis in fact. 4 years ago they had gone down the drain, but still prevented a coup by calling AZ for Biden. Now they tell lies about as frequently as Trump.

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
        71·
        3 months ago

        I think the change came with Obama, but that’s also around the time I moved out of the place where I heard it all the time, so it could just be that that’s when my normal meter was reset.

      • Gerudo@lemm.ee
        2·
        3 months ago

        4 years ago? They kept repeating birtherism lies about Obama from day 1. The second Trump was a candidate, they flipped to unbased conspiracy theories. We are almost at 16 years of this bullshit.