Ukraine told critics of the pace of its three-month-old counteroffensive to "shut up" on Thursday, the sharpest signal yet of Kyiv's frustration at leaks from Western officials that say its forces are advancing too slowly.
It’s true that US propaganda machine is unparalleled, but at this point one has to work hard not to see the gap between the narrative they’ve been fed and the reality.
Russian economy was supposed to collapse within months, Russia was supposed to be isolated geopolitically, Russia was supposed to run out of weapons, Russian military was supposed to crumble, western wonder weapons were supposed to be game changers, and so on.
It’s been around two years now, and literally every one of these predictions has turned out to be completely false. This is openly reported in mainstream western media nowadays.
Given that, I fail to see how any person capable of even a modicum of critical thought continue going along with the narrative.
And we see this same behavior manifest itself in many other areas. For example, people continue to believe articles claiming that China’s economy is going to collapse despite decades of such articles being false.
Continuing to believe media that has been so consistently wrong does require at least a certain amount of gullibility in my opinion.
Yeah, take a shot every time one of us dirty commies denies the existence of Saddam’s WMDs. The biggest propaganda machine in history would never lie about it’s rivals.
It’s wild that I didn’t even mention brigading, but most of the comments from hexbears are defensive about it. It’s not brigading to comment on posts on other instances, so stop feeling insecure about it. Especially when there are so many other valid reasons people hate you guys.
Yeah my bad, I mistook you for another idiot.
Of course we are defensive about it! Its a tiring accusation.
Yes so much to hate like analysing news, investigating claims and not tolerating bigots. Gets you big mad.
I was speaking more along the lines of the endless emotes and troll comments. I don’t think people have a problem with many of the comments that have actual meat to them, even if they vehemently disagree with what’s said, like I often do. The ones posting the same trollface emote fifty times though? That’s assnine and annoying. Then those same users complain that nobody wants to “debate” them. That’s not debate. It’s not even a conversation.
take a step back and notice that those comments are in response to someone else engaging in bad faith behaviour. Hexbear does not have a downvote function, which has fostered a culture of mocking people acting in bad faith. If you do not like people dunking on idiots, then get mad at the idiot
Brigading is clicking on the article that is on the top of all
Why is it inherently bad to be negative towards NATO and good to be positive towards Russia, China or the DPRK? I thought you guys liked nuance.
I have yet to see anyone do genocide apologetics or dismiss human rights violations. Thinking critically and investigating claims is a good thing, and you thinking otherwise shows how pathetic you are.
New drinking game:
Take a shot when libs call people disagreeing with them “brigading”
Take a shot when libs use the word Tankie or authoritarian without being able to define them.
Take a shot when libs fail to provide a source.
Take a shot when the only source they can provide is Wikipedia, Kiev independent or Radio Free ____
Take a shot when they do double genocide theory.
Take a shot when they use bigoted language.
Take a shot when they act like smug little shits and then cry foul when they get treated like smug little shits.
Here is the thing. It’s only liberals that threats this as a football game were you have to cheer on one of the teams. If you actually know the history and some form of idea about the geopolitical stage, you can be on the side that actually wants peace. Not “until the last Ukrainian is dead” that the west wants.
Why would you do that? How does it sound funny to you that US propaganda is so important to you that you would poision yourself if you weren’t surrounded by it? It get you were trying to make a joke but the joke is that, " if I encounter anything other than US propaganda I need to self harm so I don’t acknowledge it."
It is just wild to me that you exist in a state where this seems like a banger post.
You do understand reality exists right. It isn’t just US propaganda vs Russian propaganda. There is an actual objective truth that can be found. It isn’t particularly hard. No one here is claiming to have special wisdom here.
There sure are a lot of Lemmy bro-gaders and NATO shillbots in this thread. That’s the only explanation for people disagreeing with me.
Literally anyone who disagrees with me is by definition a bot running out of a basement in Langley VA.
Don’t be ridiculous! Sometimes they’re running on the Hilldawgs server.
The Buttery Males are coming from INSIDE THE INSTANCE!
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Theyre parodying a droney.
Seems to be an equal amount if not more Putin shillboys happy to amplify the Russian propaganda machine here too!
Lmao I am literally mocking your exact sentiment. People disagreeing with you does not mean they’re bots or paid to post. Get out of your echo chamber
If these people weren’t gullible imbeciles they wouldn’t fall for propaganda so easily in the first place.
It’s cute in a sad way
I don’t like the framing of people believing what they’ve been told by teachers, parents, and the media all their life all being gullible imbeciles.
Some of them even examine both sides to get a full understanding of the issue, by watching both CNN and Fox News.
It’s true that US propaganda machine is unparalleled, but at this point one has to work hard not to see the gap between the narrative they’ve been fed and the reality.
Russian economy was supposed to collapse within months, Russia was supposed to be isolated geopolitically, Russia was supposed to run out of weapons, Russian military was supposed to crumble, western wonder weapons were supposed to be game changers, and so on.
It’s been around two years now, and literally every one of these predictions has turned out to be completely false. This is openly reported in mainstream western media nowadays.
Given that, I fail to see how any person capable of even a modicum of critical thought continue going along with the narrative.
And we see this same behavior manifest itself in many other areas. For example, people continue to believe articles claiming that China’s economy is going to collapse despite decades of such articles being false.
Continuing to believe media that has been so consistently wrong does require at least a certain amount of gullibility in my opinion.
New drinking game. You take a shot everytime some hexbear pops into another instance and posts any comment that:
Garanteed to kill you before the day is over.
Yeah, take a shot every time one of us dirty commies denies the existence of Saddam’s WMDs. The biggest propaganda machine in history would never lie about it’s rivals.
You hexbears are always so angry. I suggest getting a vibrator, it’ll help you release some of that tension.
We can vibe and hate America at the same time, actually
Not gonna lie, I love that emote.
“You hexbears are always so angry”
You seem super chill tho. Are the brigaders in your walls?
It’s wild that I didn’t even mention brigading, but most of the comments from hexbears are defensive about it. It’s not brigading to comment on posts on other instances, so stop feeling insecure about it. Especially when there are so many other valid reasons people hate you guys.
Yeah my bad, I mistook you for another idiot.
Of course we are defensive about it! Its a tiring accusation.
Yes so much to hate like analysing news, investigating claims and not tolerating bigots. Gets you big mad.
I was speaking more along the lines of the endless emotes and troll comments. I don’t think people have a problem with many of the comments that have actual meat to them, even if they vehemently disagree with what’s said, like I often do. The ones posting the same trollface emote fifty times though? That’s assnine and annoying. Then those same users complain that nobody wants to “debate” them. That’s not debate. It’s not even a conversation.
take a step back and notice that those comments are in response to someone else engaging in bad faith behaviour. Hexbear does not have a downvote function, which has fostered a culture of mocking people acting in bad faith. If you do not like people dunking on idiots, then get mad at the idiot
USA whould never lie just forgot
The USS maine
Guld of tonkin
Nayirah testimoney
WMD
Gaddafis Viagra
Brigading is clicking on the article that is on the top of all
Why is it inherently bad to be negative towards NATO and good to be positive towards Russia, China or the DPRK? I thought you guys liked nuance.
I have yet to see anyone do genocide apologetics or dismiss human rights violations. Thinking critically and investigating claims is a good thing, and you thinking otherwise shows how pathetic you are.
New drinking game:
Take a shot when libs call people disagreeing with them “brigading”
Take a shot when libs use the word Tankie or authoritarian without being able to define them.
Take a shot when libs fail to provide a source.
Take a shot when the only source they can provide is Wikipedia, Kiev independent or Radio Free ____
Take a shot when they do double genocide theory.
Take a shot when they use bigoted language.
Take a shot when they act like smug little shits and then cry foul when they get treated like smug little shits.
Here is the thing. It’s only liberals that threats this as a football game were you have to cheer on one of the teams. If you actually know the history and some form of idea about the geopolitical stage, you can be on the side that actually wants peace. Not “until the last Ukrainian is dead” that the west wants.
How dare anyone be negative towards the belligerent arms cartel that has had its hand in multiple coup governments, and destroyed numerous countries.
You all act so offended by people not swallowing your narrative.
And if you want to die from alcohol poisoning in an hour then just take a drink every time a dronie moans when people point out basic facts to them.
Why would you do that? How does it sound funny to you that US propaganda is so important to you that you would poision yourself if you weren’t surrounded by it? It get you were trying to make a joke but the joke is that, " if I encounter anything other than US propaganda I need to self harm so I don’t acknowledge it."
It is just wild to me that you exist in a state where this seems like a banger post.
You’re right, better to “think for myself” and only listen to Russian propaganda.
You do understand reality exists right. It isn’t just US propaganda vs Russian propaganda. There is an actual objective truth that can be found. It isn’t particularly hard. No one here is claiming to have special wisdom here.
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