• Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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    You’re welcome to your opinion, but I don’t think she is.

    Not really opinion at this point…

    Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

    For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.

    2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump’s national security advisor

    More context:

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      Not really opinion at this point

      It is still an opinion though.

      If anything they did was illegal, then it’d be front page news. And apparently enough people like her that it makes Democrats scared and angry enough to try to block her and spread misinformation about her every chance they get. lol

      I personally don’t care about that photo or your suspicions about her at all all.

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        If anything they did was illegal

        Haven’t said she did anything illegal yet. We aren’t spreading misinformation. All that is backed up by evidence. You are.

        I personally don’t care about that photo or your suspicions about her at all all.

        Then report me to the mods, file a complaint with the linked news sources, and/or block me. Also, that photo and damning evidence isn’t for you. :D

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          You are.

          What misinformation am I spreading? I just posted a news article. If you believe any part of the article is inaccurate, I encourage you to reach out to the news organization that published it.

          Then report me to the mods

          Why would I report you to the mods?! I haven’t seen you do anything in this thread that’s against community rules. I’m fine with you disagreeing with me. I disagree with you too.

          I’m not even voting for her. lol

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            What misinformation am I spreading?

            For one, you claim that Democrats are angry or worried about the Green Party and you KNOW (because I and many Many people have proven this to you beyond the point of rational disagreement) they aren’t. What they are worried or angry about is the danger of the spoiler effect of these BS 3rd party candidates, with zero chance of winning the presidency, causing the Republicans to win despite almost nobody in these conversations wanting that at all.

            You’ve blatantly said you do not care about the spoiler effect and the only reason someone with your alleged intentions wouldn’t care about increasing the chances of Trump winning is if that was what your real goal was.

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              For one, you claim that Democrats are angry or worried about the Green Party and you KNOW (because I and many Many people have proven this to you beyond the point of rational disagreement) they aren’t.

              If they’re not angry or worried, then why is there such a strong reaction when I post news about the Green Party? Why go to such lengths to remove them from the ballot? It seems like there’s a lot of effort being made for something they’re supposedly unconcerned about.

              What they are worried or angry about is the danger of the spoiler effect of these BS 3rd party candidates

              So, they are worried and angry about the Green Party, just for different reasons. That seems to contradict what you just said.

              the only reason someone with your alleged intentions wouldn’t care about increasing the chances of Trump winning is if that was what your real goal was.

              The Trump accusation is not only incorrect but painfully unoriginal. The real threat is the Duopoly and capitalism. Whether it’s Trump or Harris, both serve the same ruling class keeping workers down.

              If you think I’m voting for Trump, then you haven’t noticed any of my posts. lol Have a look: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

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                Your denial is meaningless. The spoiler effect is proven. Voting 3rd party has cost elections. If you really don’t want Trump to win you’d vote Harris, say you were, and clearly state that reality gives you no real choice otherwise you’d vote for whomever. An intelligent stance that acknowledges that you are forced to choose a lesser evil lest 5th grader logic result in the greater evil winning.

                If there were primaries, or any 3rd party actually had a chance then by all means vote your conscience. That isn’t the case so act your age instead of petulantly voting against your interests just because thinking is hard. Trump will thank you otherwise.

                You want to discuss all the mistakes and perversions of/in the system that got us stuck in this mess with no way out that isn’t a cop-out I will stand by you and commiserate fullheartedly. But get real in the meantime.

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                  If you really don’t want Trump to win you’d vote Harris, say you were, and clearly state that reality gives you no real choice otherwise you’d vote for whomever.

                  No thanks. I’ll vote for who I want to and who best aligns with my values. And that’s not Trump or Harris. :)

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                    And when Trump wins because Harris lost a battleground state by 700 votes a progressive 3rd party got instead what will you say when the US starts sending weapons to Israel en masse?