• Strange_Design@lemmy.world
    304·
    2 months ago

    Reddit being down is how I found out about this place. This is literally my first post here. Thanks for sucking Reddit!

    • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
      442·
      2 months ago

      Don’t forget to apply to the No Poop Challenge!

      Jokes aside, welcome. It’s a bit messy but fun here. Make sure to take a look at how instances work, for most part you can ignore it but it does improve a lot your experience.

      • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
        381·
        2 months ago

        The top two mistakes I ever made on the Fediverse were unknowingly posting in Chapotraphouse in hexbear.net, and similarly in Lemmygrad.ml. Lemmy was practically unusable for me until I realized I could block those instances (and later lemmy.ml), which improved my happiness here by >99%, no joke.

        Definitely it’s worth paying attention to how instances work.

        • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          15·
          2 months ago

          I’m the same way… I don’t like to block people because I want to know what everybody’s saying… But I had to block hex bear. I normally just scroll all and they were everywhere all the time everyday and it just got too much.

          • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            I used to be quite proud of myself for never blocking anyone on Reddit, ever. Also I was a mod of a couple of gaming subs, so it wouldn’t have worked in those anyway:-). But eventually I realized… it wasn’t helping my state of mind, and rather it was affecting my irl relationships too. So I stepped back from modding, and finally blocked a particularly onerous troll account that I did not want to ban as a mod, but I sure did enjoy blocking him as a normal user.:-)

            There’s a saying about the only thing we must not tolerate is intolerance, and it doesn’t quite go far enough imho as to state the consequences of failing to block intolerance - that they drag us down to become more like them:-(.

            • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
              3·
              2 months ago

              and finally blocked a particularly onerous troll account that I did not want to ban as a mod, but I sure did enjoy blocking him as a normal user.:-)

              Just for curiosity, what was the troll doing?

              I got a few of them from my Reddit mod times too, but since I was moderating smaller subs I had some freedom to tweak the rules towards their behaviour. (Because if I’m getting annoyed by the troll, odds are that other members are too.)

              • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
                4·
                2 months ago

                Standard troll (like toddler) stuff: pushing boundaries to see just exactly how far they could go, while stopping just inside the stated rules.

                The reason I didn’t ban him is that his trolling was directed almost solely at me as the mod, but to the rest of the community he was actually quite helpful, and even somewhat kind 95% of the time. Some kind of problem with authority I suppose, even though I’d previously offered him my mod position but he turned it down.

                We all have bad seasons in life, and I shudder to think what he went through during the pandemic. Not that it matters bc behavior is always a choice - Hitler’s home life surely wasn’t fantastic either - but by way of explanation, I do wonder how much the pandemic encouraged trolling on the internet world-wide (most likely: it simply became the latest in a very long like of reasons). And anyway, he was definitely this way before that started, so at best it would be an exaggerating factor.

                He seemed good at masking behaviors, thus overall he was better for the community than he was annoying. And it was a small community (at least among regular posters) to begin with. And I was getting super annoyed by the game itself, and by Reddit, so rather than kick him out I stepped down as mod (I had been training someone already, and a prior mod returned from before the pandemic, so it was in good hands) and left the sub myself instead, and now there’s “peace” over there:-).

                • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
                  4·
                  2 months ago

                  Urgh, the complicated type. When the user is just plain bad you ban them, when the user is mostly good you leave them alone, but when it’s mixed this way no matter what you do you feel like you did the wrong thing.

                  I get why you simply blocked him though - it feels sensible in this case.

                  I do wonder how much the pandemic encouraged trolling on the internet world-wide

                  My granny would say that “an empty mind is the Devil’s workshop”. I think that’s the case with the pandemics, a lot of people were stuck at home with too little to do, too little to think about.

                  To be honest my own troll Reddit account saw far more activity during the pandemic. (I avoided making it personal against anyone there though - I had more fun taunting whole circlejerks instead.) But by then I wasn’t a mod any more for years.

        • njordomir@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          I’m out of the loop on the meta despite being active on the platform. What’s the deal with those other two servers? I can see they have strong “personalities”.

          • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
            42·
            2 months ago

            They have some… interesting political viewpoints, that is for sure. The thing is, regardless of that, it’s like a self-styled “alpha” person who looks down on everything that they refuse to understand themselves - they dish out an insane amount of criticism (that’s the literal sole purpose of a place like ChapoTrapHouse, read its very own community statement of purpose), yet cannot handle even the slightest wisp of not even criticism but honest questioning in return (anything less than obsequiousness right off the bat).

            They are often derogatorily called “tankies”, due to how they believe in the conspiracy theory that no casualties occured at Tiananmen Square, ignoring all the videos, photos, and first-hand accounts from people who were actually there. Also, Russia and China are “communist”, more importantly are “not” doing genocide, and instead it is the USA that is doing “genocide”, not just supporting others doing it but directly I mean, as best I can tell meaning for the reason that it is capitalist and that somehow capitalism = genocide (but again, their preferred nations are “not” capitalistic, nor “doing genocide” in their minds, in complete defiance of all facts otherwise, most especially those experienced first-hand by e.g. someone who directly lost a family member to such).

            But again, their political viewpoints aren’t the main thing, it’s what that reveals about how they approach the world. i.e., consent does not matter - or rather, it must but only when directed at them, yet never in reverse. i.e. remember that style of logic that stopped working for you when you were 5 years old? (“I know you are but what am I?”) Yeah, they are still using that - and somehow it works!? Also styles that tbf have baffled experts for years, like gish gallop and reverse gish gallop, etc.

            And since they have existed in echo chambers for many years now, they actually believe this stuff. The problem is, they also still believe it when they leave those echo chambers and come over here, to “leave their mark” upon any conversation that doesn’t go 100% their way. You’ll see it yourself soon enough - if you haven’t already - though Lemmy.World already defederates the worst of them, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. As I mentioned, you might also want to block lemmy.ml.

            Also, Innuendo Studios has a cool video series about these matters, titled “Why Are You So Angry”, and then another much better one albeit a bit less related so for this topic more of a follow-up after that one, titled “The Alt-Right Playbook” if you want to follow up further, but basically it’s a super-deep rabbit hole that ultimately may literally end democracy on earth, on the one hand, but also it affects how much we are allowed or not allowed to talk about things on the internet too, without huge push-back from bullies.

        • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
          6·
          2 months ago

          It’s a local meme.

          A year ago or so someone posted in AskLemmy “I need to survive for 3 days while pooping as much as possible. I can pee as often as I like. It can take up loads of space. What food do I pack?” Apparently they were serious with the question, but… well, it’s bloody hilarious and suddenly everyone was joking about it.

          The original thread was deleted, but you see plenty copycat threads like this one.

          • Lem Jukes@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 months ago

            Wasn’t the I need to not poop the first one? The link posted doesn’t open for me.

            • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
              2·
              2 months ago

              You’re right - I copied the title of the post without noticing that they flipped it. (I can’t find the original any more.)

              The link from .ml opens fine for me.

    • asudox@programming.dev
      17·
      2 months ago

      Welcome to Lemmy. Glad to get new people here.

      Just a quick FAQ because newbies tend to get some common things wrong:

      Q: What is a “community”?

      A: A community is basically a subreddit that lives in a specific instance

      Q: What are we called in Lemmy?

      A: Most people use “lemming”

      Q: What is an instance?

      A: An instance is basically a server. For example, you registered at lemmy.world. lemmy.world is an instance. With the power of federation, you don’t need to register at other fediverse platforms to interact with stuff there here (only applicable to federated AND supported fediverse platforms). For example, mastodon.social can mostly interact with lemmy servers (instances)

      Also, don’t mind the old looking minimalstic UI of lemmy. A revamp of the UI with a more modern design is being developed as we speak

      Any questions welcome.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
      19·
      2 months ago

      Funny how they have the audacity to complain about this place being botted when their bot problem is so, SO much worse.

        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 months ago

          Yeah there really are not that many here, and while there are probably more who hide in the background, it’s nowhere near what the Reddit scabs/stans claim when they talk shit about Lemmy and alternative platforms in general.

          • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            5·
            2 months ago

            ‘alternative is not ‘click 3 buttons’, therefore it sucks balls and no one should use it’

  • Die4Ever@programming.dev
    48·
    2 months ago

    When my Lemmy instance is down (which is very rare, much more stable than Reddit), I just browse via a different instance!

    • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
      173·
      2 months ago

      I don’t get it either. I know a lot of lemmy users have an axe to grind with reddit, but treating every temporary outage like it’s dead forever is just bizarre.

      • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
        83·
        2 months ago

        It’s like honestly delusional behavior. Just a huge echo chamber repeating the same boring shit over and over. It’s ironic because one of the reasons that people came to Lemmy was to eacape the Reddit circklejerk culture.

        • BossDj@lemm.ee
          71·
          2 months ago

          On top of it, this is fucking Daily Mail. They fell for a Daily Mail shock value story.

    • 0ops@lemm.ee
      4·
      2 months ago

      Yeah back when still used reddit I found myself scrolling through the comments of coping redditters on downdetector.com at least once every couple of months I swear, and I was never even that active

    • cheddar@programming.dev
      2·
      2 months ago

      True that. It’s incredible how terrible reddit is from the technical point of view. You can clearly see that even if they have good engineers there, they aren’t getting any resources to do their job properly.

    • brax@sh.itjust.works
      51·
      2 months ago

      It’s cool you can call stuff out on here. I tried that on Reddit and got banned. Then called out the mods and got banned from the site for harassment 🤷‍♂️

      Reddit can’t die off fast enough. It’s clearly past its prime

        • brax@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          2 months ago

          Worst part was, it was all really civil I thought. Like, “Hey, this sounds like X but it might be Y”

          Turns out the dude was a piece of shit, but still… While I consider myself pretty left leaning, I also like to make sure I’ve got my fingers pointing in the right direction. Call the piece of shit out for cases where they are without a doubt being a piece of shit. Not for areas where there some room for personal interpretation.

          But according to some mods, we should just blast people over anything regardless of verifiability. And trying to further explain the dangers of enforcing nonsense like they’re doing is apparently considered harassment.

          Their approach:

          Me: Appalling the ban, stating the nuance of the post.

          Mods: “No, don’t contact us again.”

          Me: Huh? But this, though…
          Mods: “No, contact us again and we’ll report you for harassment”

          Me: I’m all for pointing fingers, but this is dangerous…
          “We’re muting you now, and also reporting you for harassment”

          Reddit admins: “How dare you harass the mods with civil conversation! 7 day ban!”

          Me: Appealing Reddit ban, stating the only harassment thus far has been from the mods. Show me where I was harassing.
          Human admin: Nope, harassment. Ban staying.

          Meanwhile, conspiracy, conservative, and canada subreddits continue to exist no prob…

          Reddit can’t die soon enough. It’s clear that the site is compromised big time.

        • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          21·
          2 months ago

          As someone who modded a couple subs in the hundreds of thousands plus range on reddit. Most the decent mods left during the exodus. Those who stayed tended to be the powerhungry types who wanted to push a certain narrative.

    • Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Voyager has an option to block specific websites/keywords which may be useful to you (depending on your device of choice). Not sure if other front ends have that but I think it’s worth looking into.

  • terraborra@lemmy.nz
    19·
    2 months ago

    Not just the US. Can’t access it from NZ either.

    I definitely prefer the vibe of lemmy but there’s still communities I visit on Reddit for reviews and discussions about more niche topics.

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    18·
    2 months ago

    Reddit down report #420 this year.

    Tell me when AWS or something is down. Reddit goes down so often it becomes a nothing burger