Its a stalemate. JD Vance accomplished what he needed to rally Republicans to this cause. Which is to shit on the moderators and make it sound like Walz and the Moderators are in cahoots. Worse, this kind of meta-debate is on-brand for the Republican strategy.
This is why fact-checking is so hard, because when you do it wrong it solidifies a huge number of Americans against the fact-checker and can even rally them to JD Vance’s side.
has CBS explained why the moderators intervened and fact checked him? I’m going to assume some laywers stepped in and said, “We can’t air that. We’ll be sued to oblivion.”
but also, like, Saying “we’re not” and then doing it certainly feeds into the narrative that they were trying to help Walz. at least in republican minds.
I don’t need to defend my mom against internet strangers, but I assure you she’s not dumb. She’s not even the most brainwashed within my family with regards to Republican talking points. She’s one of the more reasonable ones.
Are you seriously so fucking ignorant of America that you don’t know of how a Obama-birther thinks? Holy shit man. Are you young? Please tell me you’re some kind of Zoomer or something who is new to this politics thing.
At least my generation is mostly about us talking about Birthers / Q / Boogaloos / Manosphere bullshitters in our families (even otherwise reasonable people who have drunk the Kool-Aid), and suddenly I come across someone who is somehow completely ignorant of what is at play or what is at stake here. I almost envy your naivete.
Don’t worry. My mom and step dad are the same, and they are definitely not idiots. I think I’ve actually gotten through a bit to them, though. I’m hoping i can actually flip them before November.
He maligned my mom because he’s ignorant of the Birtherism thing. Its… fine. I like that kind of optimism actually. It gives me hope for the next generation.
2016 was a long time ago. Its good to see these issues being forgotten. Lets not go back there, vote Kamala. We’re not going back.
It’s cool to love and defend your mom, friend. Sorry I wandered into this one. I love my mom and respect her, actually we agree on politics and such, but I do not enjoy her company. Familial piety and all that.
Oh sweetie. I’m sorry to ask this,but where thefuckhave you been the past 8~9 years!? C’mon dude. We’re in over our heads inside la-la land; where you can just make up whatever you want and hordes of people believe it because they want to. Facts don’t matter if you don’t want them to.
Oh the mods came ready. They did fact checking and took no shit. It was glorious to watch.
No.
Its a stalemate. JD Vance accomplished what he needed to rally Republicans to this cause. Which is to shit on the moderators and make it sound like Walz and the Moderators are in cahoots. Worse, this kind of meta-debate is on-brand for the Republican strategy.
This is why fact-checking is so hard, because when you do it wrong it solidifies a huge number of Americans against the fact-checker and can even rally them to JD Vance’s side.
has CBS explained why the moderators intervened and fact checked him? I’m going to assume some laywers stepped in and said, “We can’t air that. We’ll be sued to oblivion.”
but also, like, Saying “we’re not” and then doing it certainly feeds into the narrative that they were trying to help Walz. at least in republican minds.
Fact checking isn’t hard if you go by facts. Your response about ‘sounds like’ is contradictory is so many ways
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini’s_law
Did you watch when they fact checked Trump on migrants and pets? People still believe it to be true.
For fucks sake did you not exist between the years 2016 and 2020?
My mom literally still thinks Obama is a Muslim.
It sounds like your mom’s an idiot & I question your judgment if this is your metric.
I don’t need to defend my mom against internet strangers, but I assure you she’s not dumb. She’s not even the most brainwashed within my family with regards to Republican talking points. She’s one of the more reasonable ones.
Are you seriously so fucking ignorant of America that you don’t know of how a Obama-birther thinks? Holy shit man. Are you young? Please tell me you’re some kind of Zoomer or something who is new to this politics thing.
At least my generation is mostly about us talking about Birthers / Q / Boogaloos / Manosphere bullshitters in our families (even otherwise reasonable people who have drunk the Kool-Aid), and suddenly I come across someone who is somehow completely ignorant of what is at play or what is at stake here. I almost envy your naivete.
Don’t worry. My mom and step dad are the same, and they are definitely not idiots. I think I’ve actually gotten through a bit to them, though. I’m hoping i can actually flip them before November.
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Homie. Why you malign OP’s mom? You know there’s been a political “rearrangement”
He maligned my mom because he’s ignorant of the Birtherism thing. Its… fine. I like that kind of optimism actually. It gives me hope for the next generation.
2016 was a long time ago. Its good to see these issues being forgotten. Lets not go back there, vote Kamala. We’re not going back.
It’s cool to love and defend your mom, friend. Sorry I wandered into this one. I love my mom and respect her, actually we agree on politics and such, but I do not enjoy her company. Familial piety and all that.
Oh sweetie. I’m sorry to ask this,but where the fuck have you been the past 8~9 years!? C’mon dude. We’re in over our heads inside la-la land; where you can just make up whatever you want and hordes of people believe it because they want to. Facts don’t matter if you don’t want them to.
Well no shit. You still have to say something. Even if you question if there is a soul on the receiving end