Clearly, Google is serious about trying to oust ad blockers from its browser, or at least those extensions with fuller (V2) levels of functionality. One of the crucial twists with V3 is that it prevents the use of remotely hosted code – as a security measure – but this also means ad blockers can’t update their filter lists without going through Google’s review process. What does that mean? Way slower updates for said filters, which hampers the ability of the ad-blocking extension to keep up with the necessary changes to stay effective.

(This isn’t just about browsers, either, as the war on advert dodgers extends to YouTube, too, as we’ve seen in recent months).

At any rate, Google is playing with fire here somewhat – or Firefox, perhaps we should say – as this may be the shove some folks need to get them considering another of the best web browsers out there aside from Chrome. Mozilla, the maker of Firefox, has vowed to maintain support for V2 extensions, while introducing support for V3 alongside to give folks a choice (now there’s a radical idea).

  • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    134·
    3 months ago

    In what situation do you need one?

    I’ve been using Firefox for over a decade and have literally never once needed to open a different web browser. For anything, ever. This is a very common complaint that tons of people seem to have that I have never seen happen even once out in the wild.

    • suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.mlEnglish
      191·
      3 months ago

      Several government websites for the state of Pennsylvania complain and refuse to work if they detect that you aren’t using chrome/edge/safari.

      • bitwolf@lemmy.oneEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        You can spoof your useragent to appear as chrome. And you should as it makes your browser less “unique”

        • suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.mlEnglish
          39·
          3 months ago

          While you can do this, it’s not clear to me that you should. There are a number of additional laws having to do with perjury and misusing goverment sites and while I would undoubtedly agree with you, were you to assert the application of those laws to the utilization of a user agent switcher is a ridiculous overreach, I am just as certain I have no desire to be in the hot-seat on the day we all find out.

          • bitwolf@lemmy.oneEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            Oh wow I didn’t know that. I’ll have to double check for the states that are relevant for me.

            I imagine many people naively install a privacy extension and unknowingly have altered useragents

            • datavoid@lemmy.mlEnglish
              5·
              3 months ago

              Imagine the government coming after someone, demanding they give Google their fair share

              • suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.mlEnglish
                11·
                3 months ago

                Yeah, because career-minded prosecutors and judges never fuck over little people for minor, technical, harmless violations of the law. 🙄

      • poke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        Do the sites work if you use an extension that lies to them about what browser you are using?

    • Zetta@mander.xyzEnglish
      12·
      3 months ago

      I also use Firefox on my work computer, I need to quickly authorize a login in the browser before the local “app” opens (“app” because it’s just a webpage pretending to be an app) and I just recently got a notification that slack won’t support Firefox anymore so please switch to chrome. The fucking animals.

    • Evkob@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      I use Librewolf on desktop and Mull on mobile. I have a few extensions on both, which could definitely contribute to issues. When I have issues (usually government sites or financial stuff, sometimes DRM-related stuff for media) it’s easier to just use a Chromium-based browser with no extensions than try to troubleshoot specifically what’s causing the issues. I keep Falkon (desktop) and Vanadium (mobile) installed for this purpose.

      I get the feeling a lot of issues people are having in Firefox might be due to extensions or settings, which gets “fixed” by using another browser (which happens to be Chromium-based because most browsers are) and they blame the issue on Firefox itself.

    • sunbeam60@lemmy.oneEnglish
      46·
      3 months ago

      Firefox is getting so small it’s starting to disappear out of the testing matrix. Confluence has issues with it, you can’t always log into Vanguard on Firefox, many news website layouts have overlapping elements on Firefox, quite a few shopping websites too (H&M in Europe has a long-standing but with putting stuff in the shopping basket until they revamped their website a couple of months ago). Etc etc. I see it ALL the time.