I think you underestimate the martyr effect. I don’t think his supporters will stop.

At the same time, I think we need to start seriously thinking about how to make inroads into deprogramming people. There are a lot of people who it won’t work for, sure, but at the same time, there’s got to be a nonzero fraction of the maga crowd that we can try to pull back towards rationality. The more the true hardliners are marginalized, the less effective they’ll become in the mainstream.