• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    12 days ago

    If that were the case, climate change caused the entire Roman Empire, the Chinese empire, the Mayans, the Songhai, all of feudalism…

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      12 days ago

      Scared people want strong leaders (a daddy) to tell them it’s okay, it’s not the climate, it’s the queers, migrants, etc. And Daddy’s going to fix it.

      Blame may not be the right word. But the destruction of our environment and everything that goes with it, certainly gives authoritarianism an opening.

      Judith Butler goes pretty deep into this in Who’s Afraid of Gender? Of course their analysis focuses mostly on how gender queer people end up being targeted. But the unnamed fear of climate destruction is a big factor. And trans people one of many scapegoats for power hungry demagogues.

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          12 days ago

          Not entirely sure climate change couldn’t just be argued to be the cause of all the others there.

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            12 days ago

            You can have succession wars, incompetent inbred rulers and overexploitation without any climate change. But climate change would make it more likely to happen and make the outcome worse.

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      12 days ago

      Who upvotes this nonsense? lol.

      The causes of problems today are not necessarily the causes of problems for mayans, ancient romans, etal. It’s sad that I have to say this.

  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    Or maybe a broken political and economic system is causing a gathering of wealth in the hands of the 1% which is a major factor behind both climate change and increasing authoritarianism

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    10 days ago

    It was 9/11 butterfly effect. The US’s wars caused a refugee crisis, xenophobes across North America and Europe got their panties in a bunch about all the new brown people, turned to nationalism. New (and popular) authoritarian anti terrorism laws probably didn’t help either.

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    10 days ago

    I have had the belief for a few years that the rise of fascism is an emotional response to being afraid of an uncertain future that people feel like they have no power over.