EU and China should put a CO2 tax on products from thr US if they want burn the planet
I was laugh-crying when the EU made that comment about the fate of the world being on some rando US state.
America needs to be downgraded in terms of reputation. We aren’t protectors of the world, we can barely help ourselves.
We actively harm ourselves for shits and giggles apparently.
I do think its worth creating outreach networks that
A) help people with problems created by climate crisis
B) use open source/public media to reach out to people to help inform them and solve problems.
People use reddit, gofundme etc, but I think it might be more useful to use non corporate media and branch out that way.
I hate how this picture is accurate. American inaction on climate change fucks everyone over. There’s almost no chance of convincing China and India to reduce emissions if the richest country in the world can’t be bothered to lift a finger.
But hey, maybe this will incentivize Elon to double his efforts on colonizing Mars for the super rich!
It will only incentivize Elon (and all the other filthy rich) to build air conditioned luxury bunkers guarded by AI killerbots in places like New Zealand.
Or maybe something like the titular space station in the movie Elysium, where they enjoy the newest medical treatments while looking down on the rest of humanity trying to survive on a planet that has turned into a helhole.
Yes! New Zealand, we have a bunch of gar-- investors we think you’ll like.
Actually China is leading the planet on renewables deployment.
I haven’t combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they’re also leading in fossil fuel deployment too. Probably is due to their population size than anything else.
Don’t worry though: America can’t stand that China is doing better than them at something, so we’re going to try to punish them and frame them as the bad guys since America can be the only one espousing leadership, not the Big Bad East.
I haven’t combed through the data in a minute, but I want to also say that they’re also leading in fossil fuel deployment too.
Yup, China is also leading the planet on new coal plant construction. As of 2 months ago, it seemed to be on track to add 80GW of coal generation capacity in 2024 alone, and accounts for more than 90% of new coal construction.
By way of comparison, the US peaked in total coal plant capacity in 2011 at 318GW, and has since closed about 134GW of capacity, with more to come.
In context, what we’re seeing is massive, massive expansion of electricity generation and transmission capacity, both clean and dirty, in China. We can expect China to increase its total carbon emissions each year to be closer to the West, while the United States reduces its own from a much higher starting point. Maybe the two countries will cross in per capita emissions around 2030 if current trends continue, but there’s no guarantee that current trends will continue: will the United States continue to shift from coal to gas? Where does grid scale storage, electrification of passenger vehicles, demand shifting, or dispatchable carbon free power go from here, in a future Trump administration? What’s going to happen with the Chinese economy over the next 5 years? What technology will be invented to change things?
Thanks for sharing!
Are China the good guys now?
No. But neither are the US and I don’t think they ever were. For now, I’d say the EU are the less bad of the biggest (EU, Russia, China, India, and the US) but even we aren’t the good guys.
This is my biggest concern. Like whatever on economy. Do I want more for everyone? Absolutely. But those can come back in 5-10 years.
The environment doesn’t have that long. We had the hottest summer and about to have the coldest winter and they are all like “let’s go orange man!” And not giving a fuck what they leave for the next generation. So fuckin selfish. I hate them so much.
They don’t care because they will be dead before they ever see the effects of their selfishness. They will literally never have any consequence.
I’m sure they know in their hearts that their descendants will suffer and die because of what they do today, but they don’t plan on ever feeling bad about it because at the end they will be safe, warm and comfortable in their beds, surrounded by their loving families, after a lifetime of luxuries. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. Why not fuck the planet?
I work with young trump supporters starting families. They will be hurt so much by this bullshit.
I hope they can hear me laughing at them until they fucking die. They can all eat shit. Everyone’s future is turbo fucked now because of their selfishness, and they will not be spared. I wish them every misery.
Well, we’re going to be acting on it now. Very pro
I hope he does and that all the billionaires join on the maiden flight, we’re gonna get rid of the worst scum in one single swoop. I mean, chances are that things will go as well in space/on Mars as his self driving teslas, so please do that ASAP
I said on Facebook this morning: “I’m sorry Americans, I hate this for you” and caught a 30 day ban. Amazing. I am so sorry.
Just give Facebook a permaban. Them banning you is like your boss writing you up for having the best attendance.
It’s hard as all my Livejournal friends are there. I hate it so much though.
Livejournal
That’s a name that I’ve not heard in a long time.
It was absolutely the best. Before the Russian government ate it that is. I made the best friends there.
Don’t you just love freedom of speech?
I feel like they’ve been waiting for a chance to do this. I got similarly banned after Roe vs Wade was overturned when I offered to mail abortion pills to Americans. Vice interviewed me about it.
Holy shit seriously?
I am really wondering if comments will start being unsafe with a lessened expectation of free speech continuing and revenge being the new normal. Im going to start a new account thats not linked to my email address. I’d suggest everyone else do the same.
I have every social account attached to an email nobody has. It’s just a good habit really.
Look on the bright side, late night political humor is going to get more interesting. They are putting RFK Jr in charge of key public health industries, which is going to create an entertaining amount of karma.
I do hope that the US is able to rush some Ukraine aid, but it does look like Europe is also going to have a hard road ahead. This isn’t just Trump winning out, it is a form of undermining democracies winning out, and it will continue to spread much quicker now.
They are putting RFK Jr in charge of key public health industries,
One positive is that he doesn’t seem to be influenced by corporate lobbying.
sees destroyed Statue of Liberty
“They blew it up. Honestly, I get it!”
It’s ok I’m going to become one of those cool underground people now with the melted skin who worship a bomb!
Even Scroob would be an improvement.
yep. the lofty goals of clean, cool future are wiped away and replaced with the more basement boons of high, fast burn out.
Just hand it over to the apes.
Oh wait, we did.
‘Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil’s pawn! Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport, or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.’
I’ve got bad news for you about the other primates…
Yeah, but they don’t have the ability to fuck the planet like we do.
Reject
Return
Well, we can save the planet! Kamala just has to show courage!
I don’t think kamala “frack the planet” harris was gonna make the environment much better
This kind of puritanical shit is pretty much how Trump won
How anyone could be delusional enough to think Trump would be better somehow for the environment is just beyond me
trump would not be better but dems have made it clear that they dont really take the environment seriously. They say its a crisis and we have to take action but then they open up more fracking and give more money to military contractors. This doesnt make me a trump voter but it does make me tune them out when they make appeals about climate because I know the dems will still sell the climate down the river in favor of big corporate lobbies when in power. That kind of double talk makes people give up on parties and stop caring.
So, naturally, you chose whoever is actually worse. Because hey at least he means what he’s saying…
Did you read the part of my comment where I said I’m NOT a trump voter and that he is NOT better
Nobody’s saying that the climate denier is better for the environment. We’re saying that Kamala, who “believes in science” would be a smokescreen, just like Biden was.
If your climate agenda is to give tax credits to install heat pumps and a ton of money to EV manufacturers, and to not actually tackle the biggest polluters in the country, you don’t have a serious climate plan. Also deeply unserious is slapping tariffs on China’s affordable and reliable solar panels and EVs.
The military is a huge polluter and greenhouse gas emitter. So are suburban neighborhoods and aviation. If you can’t tackle those by realigning foreign policy, infrastructure, and urban development, then you’re not going far enough.
This won’t be solved by giving a ton of money to private companies and hoping they find a profit motive. We’d need a vast expansion of state capacity at this point.
The Inflation Reduction Act included $65 million in research grants for low emission aviation and $245 million in development of biofuel based Sustainable Aviation Fuel (aka SAF). And the $3 billion in loan guarantees for manufacturing advanced vehicle technologies included certain aircraft.
There were also $5 billion in loan guarantees for shutting down our heaviest polluting power plants or retooling them to greener generation methods.
There was $3 billion in buying zero emissions vehicles and charging infrastructure for the postal service.
The Inflation Reduction Act, which inherited a lot of the stuff from the Green New Deal, was a lot of things, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard it called deeply unserious before today.
Fixing the environment means pushing back against the profit motive of corporations. You can’t fix the climate and stay friendly with big polluters. What the dems are doing are half-measures that will still see our future ruined because they refuse to go against their corporate donors
The point about aviation is that we need to reduce the need for flights. Short flights, especially those that are under 600 miles over land, are prime to be replaced by high speed rail.
No amount of SAF is going to make the short flights less polluting than a robust high speed rail system between those city pairs.
Also, you called the IRA deeply unserious, not me. I called Biden’s tariffs against Chinese renewables and EVs deeply unserious because they are.
Yeah, the IRA and Infrastructure Bill steer about $67 billion to railways, $80 billion to transit systems. And even though a lot of the other spending goes towards the status quo of car-based passenger transportation, electrifying that will go a long way towards reducing carbon emissions.
And there are some more ambitious ideas baked in, too: redesigning cities to require less car infrastructure and overall energy use, etc.
I thought it was a big deal when passed and honestly can’t understand why people who care about climate don’t acknowledge just how big of a deal it was (and how devastating that so much of the money authorized will now be in control of a Trump administration).
It’s wild that there’s so many stupid people who seem to have forgot what kind of shit Trump pulled during his administration.
Trump is going to dismantle the EPA
Not sure why you are downvoted. This is one of the big lines in project 2025.
Fuck. You.
No, frack you
Oh, my friend, how did you come to trade the fiddle for the drum?
KEEP POLITICAL POSTS OFF OF NON POLITICAL COMMUNITIES!!! ❌❌❌
Let’s ignore the fact that the US has become the world’s largest oil exporter under the current administration. full disclosure: not a yank
