• the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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    Windows 8 has some great improvements under the hood. I especially like the task manager changes. But people couldn’t take the start menu looking different, broke their little heads. Shouldn’t have even mattered, the correct way to use the start menu is hit the windows key, type the first 4 letters of what you want to launch, and hit enter

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      The thing is - we shouldn’t have had to do that. Maybe alternatively, but not primarily.

      Microsoft’s problem with Windows 8, was how they got a hair up their ass by being obsessed with mobile technology. Tablets and Phones specifically. That they decided in their ‘infinite wisdom’, to infect desktops with a theme and performance that honestly was more suited for mobile devices.

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        If I’m honest, I can take them doing that to desktops. I hate it and think it’s stupid, but I can also see that in not the target audience and don’t like computer touch screens.

        What pisses me off the most is that they did it TO THE GODDAMNED SERVER VERSION TOO! There is no reason for 2012/r2 to have the tile interface other than both are built on the same architecture. Its so asinine to have a touchscreen interface on a server platform.

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        It was a stupid and unnecessary decision, yeah. That didn’t make it a bad OS though. It was a step up from windows 7 in almost every way other than a dumb aesthetic choice that people became hyper focused on.

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          I still miss the windows 7 glass look. That was peak desktop layout. Everything you need, nothing you don’t.

          And then they threw all of that good design away for a relatively mid mobile showing.

          That didn’t make it a bad OS though

          Interface design is an incredibly important part of software development. The users weren’t wrong when they shunned windows 8, microsoft was wrong for shitting on 30 years of interface development.

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      @the_crotch @Nyciferi do you want a bing search?
      This is exactly how you get a bing search on windows 11!

      No, computer, I dont want to see a bing page with a copilot analysis of all the things “note” could be, I wanted to open Notepad.

      Now we’re just swearing and scaring the other people in the office.

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        I’m staying on Windows 10 until Microsoft somehow pulls it’s head out of it’s ass with Windows 11. It’ll take things like Steam completely dropping support of Windows 10, which will honestly happen one day because Valve slapped all of the faces of those when they promised that they would keep Steam running for old Windows down to XP. It’ll take them dropping support entirely for me to consider Windows 11 and even by that point, I’ll just go Linux fully.

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          Built my wife her first gaming PC. Installed Ubuntu. I’m shocked at how easily everything runs.

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            I’ve been running mint full time for a couple months now and it’s been amazing how little i have actually had to do to get the games running.

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            say what you want about Ubuntu (and god knows people will) but it just works, and that is the main thing people switching want.

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              Yeah, since it’s exclusively for gaming, I tried Drauger which is allegedly some gamer-based distro. Took an hour to get WiFi working then it hard locked at the login screen after running updates.

              Reminded me of my first time trying Linux in 2004.

              I’ve been running Ubuntu for a year on my laptop. Might feel brave enough to branch out into something else soon.

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          Start dual booting now. get a 2nd drive and use your BIOS boot selector to keep everything seperated, windoze has a habit of nuking bootloaders and fucking up linux installs. make sure it has no idea whats going on.

          But the real secret to switching is don’t inconvenience yourself. use the right tool for the job and you’ll quickly find how bad of a tool windows has become.

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        Not that you should have to, but web results can be disabled in start search.

        Winkey+R will open the no-frills run menu. As long as you know the exact exe or component name, you’re good:

        • notepad
        • calc
        • cmd
        • control
        • control userpasswords2
        • mstsc
        • ncpa.cpl
        • diskmgmt.msc
        • devmgmt.msc
        • shutdown (with /s, /r or /h switches)

        A few decent ones there.