• TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    I don’t have any skin in this game but just want to point out that “I understand you are hurt and angry” is an attempt to empathize with you, and not an ad hominem fallacy.

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      13 hours ago

      He/She doesn’t understand anything, he/she doesn’t know me.

      If the comment was along the lines of: I understand IF you are hurt and angry, it would be different and not presumptuous. But that he continues with: “But you have to understand…” Like he is talking to a child, confirms the interpretation of an ad hominem IMO."

      But thanks for pointing out a possibly poorly worded good intention. But the way he wrote it, it looks like an ad hominem to me.

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        12 hours ago

        You don’t just get to call any words that you don’t like, or even words directly attacking you, an ad hominem. A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person making the argument INSTEAD OF the actual content of the argument. “Your argument is wrong because you’re an idiot” is an ad hominem. What the other commenter said to you is not. Note that people claiming “ad hominem” on statements that are not are sometimes said to be committing an “ad hominem fallacy fallacy.”

        https://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html

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          2 hours ago

          A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person

          Which is EXACTLY what he did. And I even explained that in my previous post.

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            1 hour ago

            Ok buddy, you only quoted part of what I said. Did you even read the post I linked to? You’re wrong; it’s cool though, we all make mistakes. Accept it and move on.