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    There’s 2 possible reasons to have “military” escort. either…

    1. They must protect the perp from assassination.
    2. They must prevent mob from liberating him.
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    I love this place. Post anything about this on reddit and it’s likely to be removed if it gets too positive or the bots downvote it.

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      Reddit is a place to promote product. This isn’t product. Give it time and big lemmy servers will turn into reddit, but for now we get to enjoy a safe space.

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        Thankfully, because of the way Lemmy is built, we will forever have smaller communities that don’t turn into garbage like that.

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      If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.

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        The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.

        Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?

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          So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.

          TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.

          He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.

          Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.

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          I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.

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            He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.

            I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.

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          I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…

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            ….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?

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            American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?

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                sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.

                The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.

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              The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.

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                I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.

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    I’m gonna steel man this one and state that those officers are there to protect him more than protect others from him. That’s why school shooters have fewer officers escorting them, because who the fuck cares if somebody murders those monsters.

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      …they’re upset everyone is cheering for this guy. Are they worried a CEO or 1% is going to shoot him? lol everyone else loves him.

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    They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.

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      Right side of History, sure, but,

      For it’s the end of history

      It’s caged and frozen still

      There is no other pill to take

      So swallow the one

      That made you ill

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        you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.

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          Thanks for clarifying. I always thought he meant that our masters were pretending history had stopped and we were frozen in the current moment forever so nothing they do matters.

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    So when Netflix made a film adaptation of 13 Reasons Why they called in specialists to try and make it tasteful. What happened was they were faxed a list of shit NOT TO DO, only some dumbass in charge of production mistook it for a list of “THINGS YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO! DO IT! IT’LL BE FUNNY!”, leading to outrage from said professionals who then pondered why they were consulted at all if they were going to be so blatantly ignored and a spike of suicides that coincided with release of the thing. Ya know cause glorifying suicide to a bunch of suicidal people is probably not going to end well.

    Anyway, when that guy got fired from Netflix, I’m sure he got hired for the Dark Cabal that writes the talking points for the mass media.

    Because they definitely sent him a list of “Shit not to do, because if you did it it would just make Luigi into even more of a Modern Day Robin Hood” and he proceeded to mistake it for a “Definitely do this, because it’ll totally get people to mourn Brian Thomspon.” list

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      That seems too simplified. Could you point me to where i could read more about this story? Can’t seem to find anything about this advice from specialists

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        From the fact that the person repeats it in the same comment due to forgetting they already said that joke, we can safely assume it is made up

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      Is the fucking Mayor of New York in that picture? Wtf this just surreal. Our fucking hero being perp walked like this.

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        Fascinating that he’s right behind him. Perfect photo op. Isn’t he accused of crimes right now? Or just his close associates?

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          He’s accused of various crimes and no one really likes him on the Left or Right.

          The Right hates him because he basically he helped forward a program meant to help Undocumented Immigrants, only it came at the expense of New Yorkers and to such an extent that when I looked into it I had to make sure I wasn’t reading Fox News because it was so insanely gratuitous that if I started describing it, it’d sound like Sean Hannity got into the meth again.

          The Left hates him because in order to safe face for that PR Disaster, he immediately sucked up to Trump and announced that he was switching parties in a speech about how the Left is “So woke and useless” and he “Just wants to be on the winning team”, using various buzzwords in a context that kinda suggests he doesn’t know what they mean.

          And because he’s the second worst mayor New York City has ever had (the first being Rudy Giulanni of course), no one is really buying his political shift. Don’t get me wrong, no one thinks he’s a Leftist or even a Neo Liberal at heart, it’s just kinda obvious that this man has no spine and will go hard on whatever he thinks will make him look good at the time.

          Only he’s so bad at picking “What will make me look good right now?”, that I’m pretty sure his advisor is Michael Scott from The Office.

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            I can’t imagine having so few beliefs as to change sides between the two parties in a two party system in order to be on rhe winning team.

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            I mean, that’s a whole lot of words to say he’s a cop and all cops are bastards.

            I laugh my ass off that during Black Lives Matter protests liberals voted for a fucking cop for vice president and a fucking cop for mayor of NYC. What the actual fuck you dumb fucking liberals. Learn something other than identity politics. I swear to god people just vote for people because they’re a minority, even if they’re absolutely fucking terrible.

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              I didn’t vote for Kamela to be Vice President, I voted for Trump to stop ignoring Covid.

              But I get your point. I wasn’t exactly thrilled to learn she was the VP for Biden in 2020, I legitimately thought he was throwing the election when he did that…

              Maybe he was, just not the 2020 election…

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              You’re acting like the only other option wasn’t Trump again. Most people didn’t vote for Biden/Harris because they actually wanted Biden or Harris, but because we’re trapped in a 2 party system in a country where half the population doesn’t even vote.

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                Yeah, no. Fuck the democrats and the dumbass liberals who support them. Y’all get what y’all deserve. A fascist government. Biden admin had four years to prosecute trump for J6 and they slow walked the case. Democrats have had numerous opportunities to show a backbone and get shit done and time and time again they refuse to do anything except blame republicans and play identity politics. That’s all they have to offer.

                Oh, this is lemmy world, sorry for hurting libs feelings. Jk, not sorry. Y’all shat on the left for years now you’re getting what you deserve.

                Democrats refuse to hold people accountable and then are shocked pikachu face that they lose elections when they don’t even bother creating a platform besides we’re not trump. cope and seethe libs!

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                I assume the jury will be selected from Manhattan as that’s where the event occurred. Anybody know if they pull from all boroughs or not?

                If I lived in New York I’d be printing stacks of paper to post everywhere. Black and white. Something like… Luigi Fired in Self Defense and in the Defense of Others. Put this photo on it. Below that a few simply worded facts about the insurance industry killing people for profit. Then a QR code link to something explaining jury nullification in simple terms and why you can’t speak about it during jury selection.

                And how you can’t post about being selected for the jury or really tell anyone at all.

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          Run the Jewels going to have to take it. Rage broke up again.

          Speaking of, it’s about time for a new RTJ. I’ll bet anyone a million dollars they rap about Luigi.

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            Zac was a Silly-Billy and broke his leg (not the first time he’s tripped on stage) and so they cancel a world tour AND never tour again? Dayum.

            Also, ain’t no-one gonna call that bet 😅

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    I saw this on the news and honestly wondered how many cops are required for this prisoner transfer? Because all those people are getting paid to walk a guy past cameras, and they’re probably all getting paid more than me, and there’s SO many of them

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      “Ah, yep, absolutely doing work here. Work, work, work. Dangerous work. Don’t defund us and here’s the evidence to support why.”

      • Multiple U.S. Police Departments Probably
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      Probably overtime for all of them too. These low IQ “heroes” all have boats and RVs which arent going to pay for themselves.

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        Yeah the brownshirts get perks to make them feel better than the proletariat. They rub elbows with the bourgeoisie, and occasionally with the oligarchs, making them feel like part of the in-group. Meanwhile the bourgie think of them as disgusting necessary idiots and the oligarchs think of them as filthy trained dogs.