If you want to give money to Pixelfed - here’s the official avenues from their website.
The kickstarter is official too, Daniel tooted it recently.
I see, thanks!
We’d rather not give money to a cultural appropriator who has been asked by black people multiple times to stop it, but he doesn’t.
Honestly just sounds like a white guy who grew up around a lot of black people and just wanted to fit in.
the problem here is that he never grew up
If that’s what’s happening then people often do things that aren’t okay to fit in.
If he’s been asked by those same black people he wants to ‘fit in’ with to stop don’t you think he should?
I’m not a native speaker. Man would I feel uncomfortable meeting you at a party. What do you even think of Elvis?
To answer your question, which may have been added later, if not apologies for missing it.
If you are talking about the singer elvis then:
I do not think elvis was right in what he did, a lot of white people take black culture and use it to gain power, money and notireity whilst the people who created it continue to suffer.
As far as I’m aware elvis did not help black people by giving them money directly, helping them gain more rights or anything similar therefore he should not be celebrated as much he sadly is.
Why?
I’m not in the habit of being mean to people that don’t deserve it. If it was you and other non-native speakers I would take my time to explain.
dansup isn’t that he has a lot of power and actual black people who created the language asked him to stop. So it’s not at all a similar situation.
What phrase or word did he say that offended them and provoked then to tell him to stop?
I’m an old white dude that cares about my African American friends, and tries to use my Caucasian skin powers for good. However some words work their way into general American culture from its subgroups. I think if people use lingo respectfully then there’s little harm. However there are some taboo words and pejoratives that should not be used.
anything said after the “However” negates anything said before it.
so try harder ig
Ok, they asked him to stop saying “we be” and “imma”.
I thought these phrases were ingrained in Internet culture and were no longer just a “black” culture thing.
No. Internet ‘culture’ stole them from black people. to make themselves look ‘cool’ without having any connection to or care for the actual meaning of the words from a language that isn’t theirs whilst not caring about or for the people who actually created it.
White people have historically and continue to do this and it needs to stop, not everything is for the taking.
Cultural exchange happens when things are freely given, not taken and black people keep pointing out that it and so much more has been taken from them whilst they are left with little to show for it whilst white people continue to use it for fame, power and money.
Please read the linked mastodon thread. Thank you.
I found it. Thanks.
There’s a lot of links and anger over “imma” and “we be”!
I think everyone might need to “chill” but that would have similar problems.
Yup, that anger is justified.
They need to stop taking things that aren’t theirs.
Sorry I am not aware of the incident, do you mind elaborate? Thank you.
Thread and receipts here: https://mastodon.art/@welshpixie/113822469270748843
“Used AAVE as slang” is gonna get ya cancelled now? Lol, this is absurd, if those are the reasons, using them you can cancel 80% of young folk, y’all are crazy
This is kinda sad tho, that while racism and real bigots exists, y’all waste your time cancelling people for using “y’all”
Is AAVE = “African American Vernacular English”? That’s the only thing I can think that it would be.
Of note here, AAVE is an outdated term. AAE - African American English (still a little outdated) or AAL - African American Language (the newest, most accurate term) are more accurate. Linguists dropped the “Vernacular” because it is not a slang language, and are starting to change “English” to “Language” because it is most likely derived from creole, not English
Thank you so much for the more accurate names. Though a lot of black folks I know still do call it AAVE or B(V)E (Black (Vernacular) English), I’m not sure why.
You’re correct that it’s not a slang language. I wasn’t aware that vernacular implied that, I appreciate the education!
It was AAVE for a long time, and momentum is a hell of a thing. Ultimately whatever the culture wants to call it, it is really up to them.
Yes.
If you actually read the thread it’s said multiple times “y’all” wasn’t and isn’t the problem.
Okay, but all other examples were just slang too, so my point still stands
It is not just slang, though. It is a whole language that black folks have been constantly asking white people to stop using as slang. This is just one public instance of it happening
Okay, sorry, but why do you think black people should have the monopoly on speaking AAVE? Am I not allowed to speak British English, because I don’t live in the UK? Pardon my ignorance, I don’t have contact to many black Americans, but this seems ridiculous to me.
I don’t have contact to many black Americans…
Then take our fucking word for it. We live this. Listen to us.
Hey, thank you for stepping in and helping, sorry you had to.
Hope you’re doing okay.
British people in general are not oppressed by the general populace of most countries/the world.
The history of the world is white people, including and especially Britain taking what isn’t theirs and doing what they want with it whilst those who have had everything taken from them or in many cases had many of those things killed and destroyed are ridiculed, locked up, not provided what they need to live and are extremely disenfrachised.
All they want is something that is theirs to stay theirs after all this, but nope, colonisers continue to take it, tell them it sounds ridiculous when they say or do it and then lock them up or worse for the ‘privelege’.
British people in general are not oppressed by the general populace of most countries/the world.
Okay, let me rephrase this. Am I not allowed to speak Jiddisch, just because I’m not Jewish?
All they want is something that is theirs to stay theirs
That doesn’t work with culture or language. It’s simply impossible. In fact it’s the opposite around. These things become more valuable the more people you can share them with.
Great question, I went and asked a Jewish friend about this and she said that Yiddish isn’t really widely spoken any more. However most people who do speak it as a first language would be extremely flattered that someone who isn’t Jewish is trying to learn it.
However, she also said that comparing AAVE to Yiddish is absurd because of how different the circumstances are in that people aren’t actively taking Yiddish phrases as their own without caring about the culture they come from.
As for the rest of your post, it absolutely possibly, I and many others do so every day because that language and culture isn’t mine nor theirs to use, take etc.
Also cultural exchange isn’t what happens when people take something, but when it’s freely given. Which black people keep saying it isn’t but people do not care about them nor their needs, culture or other such things, so it remains a problem.
However, she also said that comparing AAVE to Yiddish is absurd because of how different the circumstances are in that people aren’t actively taking Yiddish phrases as their own without caring about the culture they come from.
Well, we use quite a lot of Jiddisch words here in Germany, but I can guarantee you almost nobody even knows those are Jiddisch words, despite what their ancestors have done to the Jews.
because that language and culture isn’t mine nor theirs to use, take etc.
Okay, to me that just sounds like bullshit. You can’t dictate how other people are allowed to behave. You also can’t avoid it. If people are positively impressed by words or actions, they’ll copy them, no matter whether you allowed them to or not. There’s no copyright for culture (thank goodness).
Maybe I’m just entirely insensitive to the topic and making an ass out of myself, but to me (an ignorant) this seems like totally made up nonsense.
Well, you said it and I’m tired of explaining what actual black people who we both should be listening to have said, what they’ve been through etc.
I’m tired of running around doing all this work asking people, paying attention whilst you and people like you just pontificate in the comments and possibly continue taking things whilst people suffer.
So I’m done with this conversation.
Hope you come around eventually, but I’m not holding my breath.
Haven’t both of these launched already? Seems like this should be a gofundme rather than a Kickstarter
I’m a little lost. Pixelfed is already a decentralized photosharing service, and they already run Pixelfed.social. So what is Loops? An app?
Loops is a TikTok clone in the same way pixelfed is an Instagram clone. It’s an app and a backend server setup with activitypub. You can sign up now to the developer’s instance if you’re interested. After signup you get access to the beta app. It’ll probably hit the app store in a few weeks/months depending on how fast the developer can get it done.
Isn’t that going to be ruinously expensive to host an instance for? Video is expensive in terms of storage and bandwidth.
You can mitigate that issue to some extent by making the videos short. As long as the user count remains relatively small, the storage and bandwidth costs aren’t going to spiral out of control. Eventually you’ll have so many millions of active users that you’ll also need to figure out a way to get a steady source of revenue. I wonder how Loops will tackle that issues. Some mastodon instances already have a small yearly fee, so I guess video instances could do that as well.
I thought the same thing initially but modern video codecs, plus the developer’s plan to limit the videos to 30 seconds actually seem feasible. Large Lemmy and mastodon servers are also pricy to run but the community finds a way, I think it’ll be the same for Loops.
Short-form videos, similar to tik tok but with (hopefully) less brain rot
But I need a foss way to rot my brain
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