You can’t get rid of it, you can only hide it: Microsoft imposes controversial Windows Backup on users::Like it or not, the Windows Backup app installed in Windows 10 and Windows 11 is here to stay, with Microsoft calling it a "system component" that can't be

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    So? Sure you can't get rid of it but also you don't have to use it.

    Despite what this article is trying to imply you're not actually forced to do any backups, so Microsoft are not seeing your information. Also it's probably be encrypted anyway, but who knows.

    You don't have to use it, so this entire article is basically a big while load of nothing.

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        People do have control over their devices You have the control to not use the application.

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          Yeah? Obviously? If they roll out a update that fucks up your computer you're out of luck. Sure you should always have recent backups but it might be more time effective to wait till all the bugs are fixed.

          Not even to mention that I should have the final say in what happens with a device that I brought and own.

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            Sick of auto updates fucking up your solution but too lazy to do your own backups? Boy howdy to I have the solution for you!

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      Why should I waste hard drive space that I paid for to store a component that I neither require nor utilize? If I'm already on a machine that is pretty close to my drive limitations (and I am), why should I simply accept further reduction in my computer's capabilities?

      This was the same argument Microsoft made about Internet Explorer during the antitrust lawsuit. Yet somehow, when faced with the possibility of a forced split, they managed to find a way.

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        Realistically, you're probably not utilizing a good 90% of your operating system's features on Windows. Is this backup crap good? No, but it's also a drop in a bucket.

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          Sure, but stuff like defrag, etc. are there for good reasons, and I'll be glad to have them if I ever do need them. Onedrive and Backup are literally only there to make Microsoft money, and having them on my system will never be of benefit to me.

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        By using Windows, you probably already opted in to these things from accepting their EULA. It's a shitty practice, but it's well within their purview.

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          It's also well within the users purview to complain about it… Also for people to figure out how to rip it out of a system as well.

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          What's in the EULA? That the software is installed, what are you complaining about exactly?

          If you don't use the software it's irrelevant.

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            I'm not complaining about anything. I agree with you that it's irrelevant, just turn it off

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          I'm not trying to claim they aren't allowed to do it. The fact that it's legal doesn't make it right.

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      It might be a preview of whats coming though, MS would conceivably at some point move to a cloud based OS completely at some point

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      You should read EULA every once in a while.

      “We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to”, for example, “protect their customers” or “enforce the terms governing the use of the services”.

      With Windows10 you already accepted that they will collect and share data. What is good faith to them remains to be seen but as a rule of hand I don't trust them for anything. In short, yes… Microsoft is seeing your information.