• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s funny how all of you America haters constantly talk about how we “don’t have any freedom” but you can’t provide any example of anything that I don’t have the freedom to do. Please go ahead and educate me about what freedom you think I don’t have, because I do whatever the fuck I want pretty much all the time.

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        1 year ago

        Well I checked out your links, and you are wrong because I can do any of the things on those lists of allegedly missing freedoms. Literally I do have the freedom to do any of those things.

        Drugs - legal marijuana here, in the process of being Federally rescheduled at the moment

        Gambling - legal casinos here

        Traffic Laws - using the example of no speed limits on the Autobahn in Germany as the sole example of non-American freedom… yeah I don't have that but I can drive as fast as I want illegally and I do on a regular basis with the aid of a radar detector

        Prostitution - legal in a state that I can access by car which I own and am able to operate currently, plus easily accessible illegally

        Speech - we do have freedom of speech, and your StackExchange article lists a weird example - "Although the US has more freedom of speech than many countries, fighting words are not protected." - This was covered in a law class that I took in college, and it means that if you say reprehensible things to an individual to the point that you enrage them to the point that they attack you, your speech was not protected. Basically you can get your ass kicked for insulting people, and this is not what I would call a "lack of freedom" but the natural order of things as they should be. However this is noted by legal scholars as being a very difficult legal defense to mount without specific evidence that the "fighting words" were used and were bad enough to justify violence. My law teacher gave an example of a man he knew who used it, whose wife was being harassed by a man who would leave sexually explicit messages on their answering machine, talking about wanting to rape her and describing it in detail. Her husband kicked that man's ass, pervert then sued, and the ass-kicker won the suit because he had the tapes of his messages.

        Abortion - legal in the USA and accessible in states near me

        Immigration - This is not a "freedom" that a citizen could make use of, being already a citizen. Every country has an immigration policy to screen the entrance of immigrants, no?

        Discrimination - This is a freedom that individuals have to freely exercise in private, but businesses are prohibited from discriminating based on many demographic factors against hiring or customers. I don't see an issue with that.

        Voting - Voter ID is mentioned as a lack of freedom, but it has never stopped me from voting. I literally have the freedom to vote as I choose so I'm going to label this one as FALSE as well.

        So now that I have reached the end of your first list. I'm not going through the other links because this first one you offered was a pile of bullshit, and I have listed the reasons in detail that those are bullshit.

        Now please go on again about my "lack of freedom" since you utterly failed on the first attempt.

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            1 year ago

            What about that specifically do you find so funny? Part of one of my college degrees' curriculum included classes about the law and American government.

            Did you have any retort to the specific things that I listed? Can you list any freedoms that we don't have in the USA?

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                1 year ago

                And so we can conclude this argument, with the fact that I have won it forever with no chance for you to redeem your loss as no evidence of lack of freedom was ever provided. The End.

                AmeriFreedom rules forever, go USA.

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                  1 year ago

                  🤣 yeah, you "won" it like the USA won Vietnam, sweetie.

                  Just like they won Afghanistan.

                  And few others.

                  Let me know when you finish reading those other links. I know words are hard, but keep struggling, and you'll get there eventually. Take frequent breaks, and drink plenty of water.

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                    1 year ago

                    I said "The End" so it is clearly you who did not read enough. For if you'd read and comprehended my prior comment, you'd have known that your loss of the argument was final already and it was concluded then.