• ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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    • Chrono Trigger
    • Disco Elysium
    • Sekiro
    • Zelda Ocarina of Time
    • Bioshock
    • Portal
    • Half Life
    • Nier Automata
    • Tetris

    Flawed Masterpieces

    • Minecraft (surprising)
    • Dragon age Origins
    • Team Fortress 2
    • Fallout New Vegas
    • Dark Souls
    • Every Baldur’s Gate

    Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria

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      I’m always curious why people add things like Ocarina of Time to lists like these. While the game was revolutionary at the time, I don’t think it holds up particularly well nor succeeds where later zeldas fail.

      To call it an objective masterpiece I feel like it has to be a game that someone picking up today would still enjoy and appreciate. Tetris and Portal for example hold up well even by today’s standards.

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        The thing that not holds well in Ocarina of Time is the N64 controls and like what they supposed to do to overcome that?

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          It’s probably me being pedantic, but for an “objective masterpiece” the game needs to stand on its own and not on its legacy. I just don’t think Ocarina of Time holds up to later zelda games in many aspects (although I do think the story and soundtrack do).

          Generally I think the ps1 and N64 era just suffer from the transition to 3D. Graphically and gameplay wise many games suffered for being the first foray into 3D gaming and those challenges wouldn’t really be settled until the next generation.

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      Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don’t think it’s correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.

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        Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.

        I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.