• CptBread@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Never actually worked at a place with a collective agreement… But then again AFAIK they aren’t that common within software or gamedev…

    (Edit: still part of a union though)

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      11 months ago

      Pretty common in software these days. TechSverige being the biggest one. Gamedev tends to fall under “up to shady shit” though, a most lucrative industry that offers shit pay is a load of BS.

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      11 months ago

      How are you in a union that doesn’t have a collective bargaining agreement? Like how does that even work?

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        11 months ago

        It’s very possible to be in an overarching group. The Netherlands, for example, has two really huge union-federations. You can join them even when they don’t have a collective bargaining agreement for your profession. That means you still get legal aid in conflicts with your employer, for example.

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        Your workplace can choose to have a collective agreement or not. It doesn’t affect whether individual employees are unionised or not.

        My first workplace did not have a kollektivavtal. Nothing in our contract said anything about negotiating salaries, meaning you might never see a salary increase (I didn’t for the three years I worked there, knew someone who worked there seven years and only saw it once), it basically just complied with Swedish worker laws.

        I was in a union, because unions are still useful for e.g. personal development, career advice, legal help, etc. You can be self-employed and be in a union, unions can offer assistance and guidance for self-employed people too.

        The argument I see against collective agreements here is that they’re “inflexible” and “not easy to apply to small companies” but I’ve yet to ever read a concrete example of this, so my personal belief is that it’s utter bunk. Like I mentioned elsewhere, there are times where not having one can sort of make sense; when you’re self-employed, and in a scenario where your contract covers all bases you want it to and you’re content not having a kollektivavtal. For example, if you have an incredible salary and you don’t ever care to negotiate about it (assuming there’s no clause in the contract about it)

        If it’s a normal workplace, you should have a kollektivavtal. It’s common sense.