Israel’s battle against misinformation and hate is overwhelming on most days. During a war, it goes on overdrive. By last measure, online anti-Semitism has spiked by a massive 1200% since October 7th When faced with a river of hate from legions of enemy countries and sympathizers, Israel’s Hasbara (positive PR) efforts are chronically understaffed, under-funded
      • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
        155·
        1 year ago

        So you’re saying all people of Palestinian descent are terrorists? Or just all Arabs are terrorists? Or just people who are kept in prison terrorists?

        What is the criteria to make somebody a terrorist? I’m not talking about the military, I’m not talking about the government, I’m talking about the civilians.

        And even if you say every Gazan civilian is a terrorist, at what age do they become terrorists? Are the babies terrorist? Are the 5-year-old’s terrorist?

        • Nacktmull@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          1 year ago

          Obviously at the moment of conception, if the person you ask is racist enough …

          • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            It geuinely seems like people think someone can be born a terrorist… Which is just another form of racism, with a new phrase attached to it.

            • Nacktmull@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              If you want to kill mothers and babies on a regular basis you need at least some kind of official “justification”. This of course applies to both sides. While the government and military of Israel uses islamophobia, Hamas is using antisemitism to justify their barbaric crimes. In both cases its in fact just racism if you look under the propaganda surface.

              • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                100%, which is why I personally say the people should be free.

                All people should be free, globally, nobody should be oppressed, nobody should live under apartheid, nobody should be deliberately denied food and water. I know I’m a crazy partisan wanting these things and advocating for them.

                The totalitarian ethno-religious organizations and governments focused on ethnic cleansing can just fuck off. But there’s a lot of people, who simply get focused on oh you don’t like my ethnic cleansing effort, obviously you believe in reversed ethnic cleansing! And that’s the furthest thing from the truth.

                It should be reasonable to have a public debate where you don’t want ethnic cleansing in any direction, nobody should to get ethnically cleansed! Why is that so controversial…

                • Nacktmull@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  All people should be free, globally, nobody should be oppressed, nobody should live under apartheid, nobody should be deliberately denied food and water. I know I’m a crazy partisan wanting these things and advocating for them.

                  Wholeheartedly agreed! Nations are a social construct imo, nothing more. Fuck nations if you ask me.

                  But there’s a lot of people, who simply get focused on oh you don’t like my ethnic cleansing effort, obviously you believe in reversed ethnic cleansing!

                  Yeah, it makes actual communication impossible and that really sucks. Reminds me of the annoying US “culture war” bullshit.

                  It should be reasonable to have a public debate where you don’t want ethnic cleansing in any direction, nobody should to get ethnically cleansed! Why is that so controversial…

                  Because of fabricated toxic narratives and propaganda spun by both sides for several decades now, would be my best guess.

          • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
            113·
            1 year ago

            I’m waiting for you to define terrorist.

            You said a inflammatory thing, and I want to understand your position. Please explain terrorist to me, and who is, and isn’t a terrorist in the Gazan territory. (Including specifically women, and children… when do children become terrorists?)

              • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                81·
                1 year ago

                You dodged my question, and change the subject. It’s only fair for me to try to keep us on topic.

                My point still stands, who wouldn’t want a population of people to be free?

                Even if you have a gripe with the adults, you still haven’t defined terrorist by the way, the children are not guilty of any sins, so they should be free. They should be free to grow up and be their own adults.

                You still haven’t answered the question that started this whole discussion, what makes the people of Gaza a terrorist, are they all terrorists? What percentage of terrorists? Are they forever terrorists? Are there children terrorists? These are important questions if you’re saying an entire ethnicity cannot be free.

                Saying a entire ethnicity cannot be free, it’s a very terrible tool that creates very terrible world.

                If you want to talk about Ukraine and Russia, I’m happy to discuss that with you, but in a different thread. Please post it and I will respond to it. But not here. We need to stay on topic

              • Nacktmull@lemm.eeEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                You keep dodging the question to define terrorist and now you accused Jet of doing the thing that in fact just you did. What a pathetic way to have an argument, lol