Update…Per Microsoft’s instructions, disabled all tracking protections in Safari and requested desktop mode and it works. Their instructions say turn protections back on after using teams… 😐

Funny enough it works in Safari and not Edge…tho that may be Apple’s fault since all browsers are somewhat just versions of Safari, last I heard…

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      Teams is exceptional in being terrible.

      I was totally over trash talking MS stuff until Teams came along and reminded me just how terrible they can be when they have a market segment cornered.

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        When it works it’s alright. Interfaces with the rest of office. But Microsoft literally breaks it all the time…it’s never been more broken then when I updated to Windows 11 today. Literally spent 6 fucking hours on updates, reboots, uninstalls and reinstalls. When I logged off and went home I was still using the damn web version because windows updates were immediately breaking anything tech support fixed. I got paid for doing very little but really frustrating day.

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          Speaking as someone who has to use Google Cloud Platform most days; they also do some horrific stuff, and their documentation and support are miles behind the AWS and Azure equivalents. And having worse documentation than Azure is quite the achievement.

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            I was talking more about ai and Dev tools tbh I haven’t ever used Google cloud functions or whatever ever their cloud computing thing is called but I have seen some docs that didn’t look bad…

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      If they would actually fix their shit then we would probably be less critical of it but right now it is a pile of steaming garbage

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        So my Linux loving friend had their Debian installation nuke itself the other day. They went to boot it up and it just vanished. Completely gone. For zero discernable reason. It worked the night before without issue, it worked for months before that without issue, only to boot up and have everything missing.

        All this is to say that using non Microsoft operating systems doesn’t magically make everything better. Everything in computing has issues and there’s no such thing as the perfect system.

        Plus, even if Windows was perfect and fully FOSS, you and I both know you and all the other unix people would still hate it. It’s been the same circle jerk since the day unix existed.

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          As a ““power user”” of software, 98% of software sucks. There’s always shit that makes you go “have they even tried using this?” or “did they test this at all?”

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          Anecdote about a magical disappearing operating system? And it is somehow the fault of the OS and not the MUCH more likely culprits, user error and hardware failure? Conflating UNIX and Linux as if they are the same thing? Your story sounds like naive exaggeration based on ignorance and hyperbole.

          But you’re right, there are plenty of reasons to hate Microsoft that have nothing to do with open vs. closed source philosophies. However, saying that the foundational principles of open source software development are more sound than closed source development in general and the particular way Microsoft has chosen to develop is not the same at all as your “perfect system” straw-man argument.

          By the way, UNIX was created in 1969, Windows was initially released in 1983 (but didn’t really take off with Win3.1 in 1992), and Linux began in 1991. So your final statement while technically true, I suppose, is kind of absurd.

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            Your story sounds like naive exaggeration based on ignorance and hyperbole

            You mean kinda like how every “Windows bad!” Story is just a PEBCAK error? Lol

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          As in there is no boot entry? Or the drive was empty? There about 5 different possible causes for that that I can think of, all of which are user errors or hardware failures (or windows updates wiping boot entries xD).

          Regardless, I get what you are saying, I wouldn’t recommend using Linux for 98% of people. The exception being when what you need to do is either not supported or is an absolute nightmare on Windows.

          I chose to use Linux before I needed it, purely because windows always felt unintuitive, sluggish and irrationally complicated for me. Nowadays I cannot do what I need to do (for work and personal projects) on Windows or do not have the time to get it working. I maintain several Linux and Windows servers, on top of writing the software that’s running on them. I simply do not have the time to deal with a lack of documentation and the weird workarounds needed to do what I need to do on Windows.

          When it comes to things like scientific computing, ML, databases and anything “backend” or low level, most of the software doesn’t support Windows and the OS level API’s are confusing as all hell.

          Windows is better for the average “desktop user”, but it falls short as soon as you need to do things the average user never does.

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      Lemmy the internet has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft.

      you must be new here

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        the internet has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft major corporations.

        you must be new to the internet

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          the internet has a serious boner for hating on major corporations

          You get used to it

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      True but with good reason. I hate Microsoft and my job is implementing their stuff.

      My colleagues are all hyped up about Ignite later this month, it’s disgusting, like a cult. And they’re constantly spamming LinkedIn full of Microsoft headlines like good corporate drones.

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      We were told that Teams was the bees knees and it would massively enhance collaboration and productivity due to its fantastic integration.

      Well, let me tell you that my disappointment was immeasurable.

      It is so slow, so inflexible, so unpolished. I despise it for anything other than a quick chat.

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        On my work computer Teams is consistently the biggest memory hog even when I’m not in a meeting or actively using it.

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      Yeah, like there’s issues but I was literally just arguing with a guy earlier who genuinely thought that using Linux was a magic bullet for network security because “FOSS is secure!”

      He was more worried about microsoft skimming his data than threat actors planting malware. THAT was his primary “security” concern. Find me any Sec analyst that is worried about what Microsoft is doing versus hacktivists or foreign governments, you can’t. We know it’s happening, just don’t use personal shit on your company computer.

      Then he accused me of being a Microsoft fanboy because I said users having unrestricted access to putting whatever software they want on their machine is a massive attack surface.

      These wannabe’s are so fucking bad here, and because there’s so many of them the non-IT users get up voted while actual IT professionals get downvoted for speaking the truth based on actual security policies.