Also, seems kind of scary that this implies a future where so many people are in prison that their vote could actually tip the balance ?

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    Creating a class of prison slaves who have no right to vote with no possibility of upward mobility is a feature, not a bug. Add to that the difficulty of obtaining affordable healthcare/tying it to a job, gutting education, making child labor legal, making abortion illegal, etc., etc., and that plan becomes pretty obvious.

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      It’s a recipe for creating monsters similar to how intervention in the middle east created those terrorists and their symbiotic relationship with the military industrial complex. That plan is so ridiculously evil and doomed to fail that I can’t help but think there’s some second order effect that they’re going for here.

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        The monsters aren’t the ones being created, the monsters are the ones creating those circumstances to begin with.

        I know you didn’t mean anything by it, but that shift in focus is really important to point out, because those same people rely on you and me to see the poor people who’s lives they destroyed as the problem, instead of whose who really are.

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      This. The whole thing is 100% by design, any other reasoning is a distraction created, again by design, to get us to look the other way.
      Don’t.

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      Can we be totally honest here and just state what the fear is?

      If slaves could vote they’d vote for freedom.

      There’s a hole the size of a railroad junction in the 13nd amendment.

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        There’s a hole the size of a railroad junction in the 13nd amendment.

        It’s less of a loophole and more of a loop-archway… with bright neon signs to advertise it.

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    Also keep in mind that they count those prisoners as part of the census, which affects how resources are distributed.

    So they’re counted, but don’t get a vote. Ripe for abuse by unscrupulous politicians.

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      It’s almost like they shouldn’t be counted at all unless they are free to vote. But the states with significant prison populations wouldn’t go for that. Maybe we can compromise. Perhaps only 3 out of every 5 disenfranchised prisoners should count for representation purposes.

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        You’d have to eliminate children and immigrants too if you did that, but those new numbers wouldn’t reflect reality in most communities with so many people being excluded from the census.

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          Small quibble here, but illegal immigrants are absolutely counted in the census, obviously they are under-counted, but they are intended to be counted. No one is “excluded” from the census.