“Florida Democrats don’t know why Taylor Swift is naming an upcoming song on her new album ‘Florida!!!’ or the reason she chose to hold three concerts in Miami less than a month before the November elections,” Politico reports.

“But their excitement around the news is less about ‘why?’ and more about leveraging Swift’s celebrity status to fill the blank space for beleaguered voters tired of losing to Republicans.

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    It’s weird how moderates think Taylor likes Biden and doesn’t just hate trump.

    It’s the only reason most Biden voters are Biden voters, which is why he’s polling so terribly

    There’s no reason we have to be running such an unlikable candidate again, just because trump is even more unlikable. It’s only worked 50% of the time now.

    Edit:

    Wow. A lot of people don’t seem to know many Dem politicians…

    Biden himself said over 50 Dems could easily beat trump.

    I think this guy would be a good option, but there’s lots of others

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff

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        Seriously.

        People act like a candidate has to be perfect, if oring that Biden has been polling terribly and failed multiple times at becoming president before narrowerly squeaking by trump.

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      I’m not exactly a fan of Biden, but he’s on the ballot for two reasons:

      • Incumbents historically have an advantage, and it would be crazy to throw that advantage away.
      • Who else would run in his place? It’s not like there’s some other obvious candidate. I can think of lots of progressives that I’d personally love to see on the ballot, but the reality is that none of those candidates are seen as being electable in swing states. Be nice if it were otherwise, but it ain’t.
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        Who else would run in his place?

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff

        That guy’s 36, but ran the most funded US Senate campaign in America’s history.

        So he’s got the money neoliberals say they care about.

        He was an investigative journalist going after corruption, his positions line up with what Dem voters want…

        And he’s really popular with gen z voters.

        Why not him if all that matters is “not trump”?

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          The most funded in America’s history isn’t because of him; it was because it was a special election with the entire nation pouring money in for the sake of winning a Senate majority. It could’ve been Joe Manchin and the same outcome would’ve happened. That’s not a reflection of Jon’s campaign prowess.

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      Yeah it would be really nice if there was a D that folks liked… I’d love to see a landslide election. But those days are gone I’m afraid.

      THO… has there been a Democrat or Republican in the last… 50 years that folks really liked?

      Maybe Obama… But other than him…idk

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff

        I’m not a huge supporter of the guy, but he’s young, progressive, really popular with the youth, and just raised more money for his Senate run than any other politician in American history.

        Sounds like he’s going to be president anyways eventually, why wait 30 years before it’s “his turn”?

        Like, remember all the talk about the Georgia runoffs and no one expected Dems to win?

        Ossoff is one of the Dems that won that

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          Didn’t recognize that name at all. After reading his wiki I recognized that he was one of the Georgia run-off Senate races. Maybe he’ll do some stuff and gain some popularity in the future. From what I saw in wiki the only thing he has done so far is vote with the party and help get a college re-accredidated. The reason his campaign was somhighly funded was because he was running in one of the most contested races in the country that was flooded with cash from all over.

          I’m very glad he won, but also would someone who barely won their district really be a great possible push for a national candidate?

          Also, “not a huge supporter” and have now posted him as a name/possibility all over the thread lol… You campaign for him? Are you him?

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            Because just saying:

            Biden himself said there’s over 50 other options.

            Just gets me Biden supporters doing their best owl impressions until I start blocking them for sea lioning.

            Which it’s probably time for by now.

            I mean, by the time the fifth person asks the same question instead of scrolling down… I don’t think I’m gonna be missing much. Especially since I edited Ossof into my top reply now.

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              You’ve said the same thing five times and you’re surprised you’re getting the same response five times?

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                What?

                You really thought I was talking to all the people who kept asking:

                Who?

                I gave the same answer each time…

                I just don’t understand how someone wouldn’t have understood that

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      Who is a likable candidate, with experience but younger, who has name-recognition, can offset incumbent advantage, and not be an easy punching-bag for right-wing propaganda? Maybe Gretchen Whitmer? I don’t know.

      Unfortunately Democrats don’t have great candidates at least for another election cycle or two. They’re between two generations with nobody in the Goldilocks zone.

      I was concerned a while back that Republicans would rally behind someone like DeSantis or Haley and the age difference alone, let alone being a “fresh face” would be enough to put them over the top. Fortunately, the same match-up goes in our favor right now — especially with the backdrop of (a) the economy, (b) women’s rights, and © corruption trials (based on independents polling).

      It looks like the Senate is going to be much harder to keep than the White House.

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        Jon Ossoff

        But Biden himself said there’s over 50 other Dems who could beat trump.

        Why are you acting like that’s not true?

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          I mean, maybe? But Jon Osseff is untested. A brand-new US Senator whose background hasn’t been scrutinized to the degree Biden’s has (and who largely remains clean). Quite a gamble. And before you mention Obama, Obama wasn’t hijacking an Incumbent presidency. Entirely different situation.

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            And before you mention Obama, Obama wasn’t hijacking an Incumbent presidency. Entirely different situation.

            He ran against Hillary…

            She had more party support than most incumbents.

            And suddenly we’ve switched to Joe Biden fighting to win a primary from him begrudgingly taking the nomination because no one else can.

            Giving voters a say in who they have to vote for in the general is never a bad thing. People feeling like they have no say in the primary are less likely to vote in the general

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              I don’t know what to say. Biden won; Hillary didn’t. And Ossef is no Obama. We’re in a shitty situation with no good data-backed solutions.

              At the end of the day, nobody stopped anyone from running a primary against Biden.

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                At the end of the day, nobody stopped anyone from running a primary against Biden.

                Lol, yeah, the blacklisting stopped when the DNC stopped publicly announcing it.

                Biden himself said there’s a bunch of other options, so if I’m wrong so is Biden.

                Stop defending someone by disagreeing with them, listen to what they say instead of just rationalizing with whatever you assume

                And do t expect me to try and help you understand anything else.

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                  There’s a hefty amount of cognitive dissonance if you’re saying I’m disagreeing with Biden, and yet, Biden chose to not step down and run for a lack of anyone else throwing their hat in the ring. So how, exactly, am I disagreeing with Biden? These are not mutually-exclusive.

                  lol ok. You continue speculating on blind hypotheticals and I’ll just focus on reality of what is. Nobody of substance threw their hat in the ring; Biden chose to continue running despite also saying others could beat Trump. These are facts. Don’t expect me to help you understand anything else.

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      whoever has the most likes wins

      Well, whoever spreads the most hates wins. I don’t think even the Trump fans like Trump. They just think that Dems eat babies, want to turn them into femboys, or replace them with blacks and Jews or whatever.