• Fades@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    hmmm, should i vote for an old guy who believes in democracy or should I vote for a useful idiot to the russians who hates minorites whether it be gender or sexual preference and whatnot and would hand ukraine over to putin in a silver platter, undermine nato any way possible for daddy putin and also crown himself king and end all further elections while imprisoning his enemies and all the other things he lied about and said were being done to him…

    damn, I can’t really figure it out! I can’t stop WaVeRiNg!!!

    GODDAMN MORONS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL, JESUS CHRIST

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      9 months ago

      I understand the wavering. I voted uncommitted in my primary because Biden will win that without my help and it’s a small way of officially filing my disappointment. But if (let’s be honest, when) I get my presidential ballot and I have a choice between Trump and Biden and probably some third party, I’ll hold my nose and cast a vote for Biden. As much as I hate it, it’s not even a question.

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        9 months ago

        It depends where you live. If you are in a deep red state, it doesn’t matter. If we went blue enough for my vote to swing the state, Biden has already won anyway. I feel safe voting 3rd party and not giving him a symbolic popular vote.

        With no electoral college, down ballot matters. Vote blue on those!

        Make sure you vote though!

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          9 months ago

          No doubt I’ll be voting. My state has turned from red to purple to blue pretty consistently over the past decade or two, so I do feel pretty safe that Biden will swing the electoral college here. Down ballot does matter, and I’ll be doing my research on the more local matters before casting my ballot. The ballot I just filed was for the Democratic primary, and there were no other items to vote on. My city passed ranked choice voting for city level elections, and this year I believe will be the first election where we get to use that system. I’m excited to see how it goes and if that will be used to swing our local politics harder to the left.

    • kava@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      this isn’t working anymore. people are getting numb to the “boogeyman” technique

      dems have to offer something people want, otherwise the right is going to take over

      and i think it’s too late by now

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        9 months ago

        a boogeyman is something fake used to scare people into doing what you want. trump is a real threat. the country got noticeably, objectively worse, our supreme court is now corrupt for decades to come, he defanged the epa and if he gets in again, goodby climate work, hello actually dictator. he’s directly said he will be one “for a day” lol. it’s not a boogeyman if the danger is real.

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        9 months ago

        Boogymen aren’t real. This is not that. And the Left never had that. Right wing terrorism boogymen fund wars.

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          9 months ago

          whatever you wanna call it, it’s not going to work this year. look at the polls. hispanics & blacks are voting for Trump in larger numbers. 5/6 battleground states that Biden won last time he is losing

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      9 months ago

      Maybe instead of always forcing us to vote for the lesser of two evils, the democrats should take a second, listen to their base, and actually run someone competent.

      Because right now, there is zero difference between how the republicans would handle this genocide and how the democrats are handling it. Both parties are in the pockets of oil companies and billionaires, and don’t want a change to the status quo.

      Yes voting democrat is marginally better, but it’s not as vast a chasm as people like to make out. The system itself is broken - fucking around in the system isn’t going to fix it. It needs to be smashed and then rebuilt back up

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        9 months ago

        And that would be a powerful argument if the power of the presidency extended only to Gaza. Let’s keep doing what Michigan did and show our anger in the primaries. Worst case, they ignore it. In the best case, they get scared and listen.

        EITHER WAY, when it’s down to Trump v Biden, remember those who don’t have the luxury to “watch the world burn for 4 more years.” Even if you concede that Biden is objectively as bad at handling Gaza as Trump would be (I truly believe Trump will be miles worse), there are so many more lives on the line.

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          8 months ago

          I’ve voted in every election that’s taken place since I was old enough to. When it comes down to it, I’d still vote for biden, because I agree, having the democratic party in charge is way better than having the republicans in charge.

          However, that also gives me pause. Because you shouldn’t be able to run on “hey I’m not as shitty as the other guy”

          That’s what I hate about the two party system. Democrats by and large are not progressives. They prop up the current system just as much as anyone else. There needs to be an actual progressive party, and massive caps/bans on lobbying