• Bleeping Lobster@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    My initial response is prob as sarcastic as the others but a thought just occurred to me.

    Skyrim, v1. The og release, before all the mods and bug fixes.

    Undoubtedly still a better game than Star field. But was it the Skyrim we revere today? Will Starfield be transformed into something fun over the next decade?

    What am I on about. Almost certainly not lol.

    • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Skyrim was fun which is why its endured. Starfield is unfortunately fundamentally a bit boring and feels dated - they didn’t learn from the RPGs that came after Skyrim and moved things forward (Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 spring to mind).

      I doubt it’ll be fixed. Its not like No Man’s Sky -the developers only game and their number one priority. I think well get the usual small DLCs and Bethesda moves on to its next big project.

      I hope they learn from Starfield and make the next elder scrolls something special.

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          6 months ago

          To me it actually felt like a regression.

          One of my favorite things in skyrim/oblivion/fallout 4 was environmental storytelling, and this just has none.

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            6 months ago

            This should be bread and butter of immersive gameplay. Show, don’t tell. If I want a 1.5k word info dump I’ll go to one of my stories on royalroad. Letting me make my own narrative will be more enjoyable for me 95% of the time.

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        5 months ago

        So maybe I haven’t played enough of Witcher 3 to understand your comment from that perspective, but how did Cyberpunk 2077 move RPGs forward? I found it lacking when compared to Skyrim/Fallout 3/Fallout NV?

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      6 months ago

      Other than being super broken, it’s still the same game at its core, minus the DLC content and the graphical updates (and the paid mod store).

      I think the only non-MMO that was completely transformed over time with patches I can think of is No Man’s Sky

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      5 months ago

      That’s a stupid take. Skyrim 1.0 was essentially the same game as it is today.

  • MoistBalls@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    How about they make the game fun?

    I am replaying Skyrim at the moment. When you start the game after being cut loose after Helgen, you have a quest that nudges you towards Whiterun. The typical path usually goes Helgen - > Riverwood - > Whiterun. Between any of these three steps, you can veer off the track and find some cool stuff to do. Just near Helgen, there’s a fortress near the Cyrodiil Border, Embershard Mine, random bandit encampments, and if you are brave enough at level 1, Bleak Falls Barrow. You can play all of this without ever having to pause the game.

    Starfield has none of that. When you land on a new planet, all of the caves are the same. There’s no environmental storytelling, and in order to fast travel, you must stop the flow of the game.

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      6 months ago

      It’s not fair saying the game isn’t fun. Millions of people had fun trashing it over social media. It’s just passively fun.

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    6 months ago

    They had an opportunity to make Fallout 5, but instead they chose this. It’s been 9 years Bethesda, 9 YEARS.

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        5 months ago

        And at this points it’s honestly a pretty damn decent and fun game. At its core it’s fallout 4 on a server. Improved legendary system, one of if not the best map of any fallout, the best radio, some great quests and content. It’s absolutely worth trying out at this point for any fallout fan that hasn’t. Yeah it’s still not perfect and I wish I could actually pause, and it can be a bit hard at times but it’s total scratches the fallout itch even if just randomly exploring and not really doing quests. I also never really interacted with other players

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    5 months ago

    is it good writers? were they hiding this whole time, and ready to finally come out and rewrite the entire game?

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    5 months ago

    Honestly, I think you could fix that game but it involves making the jetpack the focus of exploration and combat.

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      5 months ago

      Honestly, I think just making the forward-burst functionality work for controller users instead of as a “keyboard hack” is enough.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    6 months ago

    Did starfield become profitable? Did they cover their develop and marketing costs yet?

    • AProfessional@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Starfield was a gamepass game, so it entered the vague subscription zone. Microsoft seemed happy with it.

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      6 months ago

      Hard to say if has been profitable as it was in development for a long time. However it probably sold well on the account that people trusted Bethesda to make a Bethesda experience. They effectively traded their remaining good will for sales.