No. Suicide help requires a professional, or at least someone who can be held accountable for doing the opposite.
Considering the annoyomity of Lemmy and how anyone can run an instace, the last thing we want to create place for the opposite to occur.
Viewer discression adviced, but this video goes on deep dive of an unchecked “suicide encouragement form”, and just how bad the anonymous web can be.
https://youtu.be/C3y6SsGAWks?si=s9852X-KBrWC9Fgi
I understand this is the exact opposite form you want to create, but I use it as an example of how a few bad actors can kill people.
Let’s say in a perfect world the community is all up an up, but some user starts DMing people to an “alternative help” instance/form. Even reported, they can just keep making new accounts, or weasel their way into the mod/admin postion to seem more legitimate.
I want no part in a community that is a collection of vulnerable individuals. Someone can simply spam everyone who posts in hopes of getting one person to take the bait. With no accountability, there are no consequences.
That being said, a locked community that is just a few posts with links and information about various professional support would not be a bad thing.
Now, I’ll look at this from a less cynical perspective.
Let’s say theres no troll, but genuine randoms helping eachother online.
What happens when it doesn’t work? You’re talking to somebody online, get to know them a bit, and one day they just stop posting. You have to assume they’re dead, how are you going cope with that? Grief is a natural emotion, and it can be taxing to cope alone (I’m guessing the majority of us here won’t really be sharing our online activities).
There also a sistuatuon were you could feel you have to keep talking to a person to keep them from dying. This is not heatly for either individual.
I just thought it would be a good idea. I am not a mental health professional but just a nurse in a slow hospital for the next two weeks until I get stationed again. And while I agree with you I think it would give people a place to let it out. Even if it does no good at least they let it loose. But I do think about 90 percent have mental health issue and need someone to say I care and I am willing to talk the person down. I asked the question out of curiosity but I am no mod or even know how to do it so it would rely on another person
I think its a wonderful idea. I would love to see a community for this, but I don’t belive Lemmy has the tools to ensure it’s a safe space.
You would need a 24/7 mod team to read through everything and keep bad actors out (not to mention utilizing DMs can make moderating pointless).
Even if you ban them, its too easy to make throw away accounts to bring negativity to the community, consequence free.
You could try IP blocking, but with vpns thats easily cicumvented. Wholesale blocking vpns would go against what Lemmy is trying to accomplish.
Fundamentally, unless you can identify someone on Lemmy, they are free to do all the bad they want consequence free.
No. Suicide help requires a professional, or at least someone who can be held accountable for doing the opposite.
Considering the annoyomity of Lemmy and how anyone can run an instace, the last thing we want to create place for the opposite to occur.
Viewer discression adviced, but this video goes on deep dive of an unchecked “suicide encouragement form”, and just how bad the anonymous web can be. https://youtu.be/C3y6SsGAWks?si=s9852X-KBrWC9Fgi
I understand this is the exact opposite form you want to create, but I use it as an example of how a few bad actors can kill people.
Let’s say in a perfect world the community is all up an up, but some user starts DMing people to an “alternative help” instance/form. Even reported, they can just keep making new accounts, or weasel their way into the mod/admin postion to seem more legitimate.
I want no part in a community that is a collection of vulnerable individuals. Someone can simply spam everyone who posts in hopes of getting one person to take the bait. With no accountability, there are no consequences.
That being said, a locked community that is just a few posts with links and information about various professional support would not be a bad thing.
Now, I’ll look at this from a less cynical perspective. Let’s say theres no troll, but genuine randoms helping eachother online.
What happens when it doesn’t work? You’re talking to somebody online, get to know them a bit, and one day they just stop posting. You have to assume they’re dead, how are you going cope with that? Grief is a natural emotion, and it can be taxing to cope alone (I’m guessing the majority of us here won’t really be sharing our online activities).
There also a sistuatuon were you could feel you have to keep talking to a person to keep them from dying. This is not heatly for either individual.
Always seek professional help.
I just thought it would be a good idea. I am not a mental health professional but just a nurse in a slow hospital for the next two weeks until I get stationed again. And while I agree with you I think it would give people a place to let it out. Even if it does no good at least they let it loose. But I do think about 90 percent have mental health issue and need someone to say I care and I am willing to talk the person down. I asked the question out of curiosity but I am no mod or even know how to do it so it would rely on another person
I think its a wonderful idea. I would love to see a community for this, but I don’t belive Lemmy has the tools to ensure it’s a safe space.
You would need a 24/7 mod team to read through everything and keep bad actors out (not to mention utilizing DMs can make moderating pointless).
Even if you ban them, its too easy to make throw away accounts to bring negativity to the community, consequence free. You could try IP blocking, but with vpns thats easily cicumvented. Wholesale blocking vpns would go against what Lemmy is trying to accomplish.
Fundamentally, unless you can identify someone on Lemmy, they are free to do all the bad they want consequence free.
…and that’s why normal people are never allowed to have a community where they can talk about it
/s