• Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    Maybe I’m just completely ignorant of law, but how/why can he be extradited to a foreign country in this manner? Did he previously reside in and operate out of the US?

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      3 months ago

      He made US companies lose money, while making money himself. Thats all they need.

      • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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        3 months ago

        Not even that, the service he operated might have been used such that US companies might have missed out on potential revenue.

        That’s it.

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          3 months ago

          Ironically, companies made revenue using megaupload in the past.

          I recall getting first party .exes from megaupload prior to the huge Google Cloud push.

    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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      3 months ago

      NZ has an extradition treaty with the the US.

      Apparently potential copyright infringement is extradition worthy

    • jeffw@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      Many countries have extradition agreements.

      Y’know those spam calls you get? Where they try to say they are the government? The reason they get away with that is that your country doesn’t have an extradition agreement with their country.

      That’s a drastic oversimplification but it’s still true

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        3 months ago

        We essentially control Australia, it’s fucking weird.

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          You know countries with extradition agreements can request extraditions in the other direction, as well?

          If an american does a crime in Australia, but makes it back to the states, Australias government can also go “yeah so uuuh that guy killed a dude over here, gonna need him back for trial”.

          It’s what makes it less likely people will just do crime all over other countries and then return home to escape punishment.

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            3 months ago

            So if I seed a bunch of Australian media to a ratio of 10,000, Uncle Sam can ship me off to Australia to be tried for crimes where my Constitutional rights don’t apply?

            Cool.

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              Technically yes.

              But I wasn’t commenting on whether this given situation, or whether modern copyright laws, are reasonable.

              In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

              They are a good thing. They allow for laws to reach across borders, because otherwise a state of anarchy would exist between countries, where all crime would be fair game, as long as you only victimized foreigners. That would be extremely fucked.

              It’s why contries like Russia and India have online scam industries, because there exists no international agreement that would enforce some consequences for robbing people on the other side of the world.

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                In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

                Of course it is. It’s why Germany doesn’t extradite citizens: You’re prosecuted in Germany, instead. Exception are other EU countries which are assumed to have sane laws, also, you have recourse to the ECHR while the US has plenty of people gleefully arguing that punishments can be cruel or unusual, they just can’t be both at the same time.