• Telorand@reddthat.com
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    3 months ago

    Brave is based on Chromium, so where Chrome goes, Brave is likely to follow.

    Routers and VPNs are only able to filter URLs. They have no way of manipulating the browser session, which is the other half of uBlock’s functionality and why it will always be superior to PiHoles or ad-blocking DNS.

    Google, for example, smuggles ads through their “good” domains on YouTube that deliver video content; at that point, it’s an endless game of whack-a-mole in the dark to have a list that filters the correct URL without obliterating the ability to watch videos.

    URL filtering is better than nothing, but it’s not really a comparable solution.

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      3 months ago

      Brave is based on Chromium, so where Chrome goes, Brave is likely to follow.

      To follow what? Brave’s adblocker is not an extension and it is not affected by MV3. And it has most of uBO’s features. More than I have ever used on uBO anyway.

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        3 months ago

        True, uBO doesn’t have a shitty cryptobro component unfortunately. Also I hate that it’s not bankrolled by a conservative sociopath

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            3 months ago

            Right the only thing that matters is technology. That’s why I think Facebook has the right to facilitate genocides any time they want! /s

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        3 months ago

        Brave is not completely independent of chrome. It’s completely and entirely dependent on it. Brave developers don’t and probably can’t develope a modern web browser. All they do is adapt chromium to have a few extra features.

        There is only three major web browsers. Firefox, safari and chrome. Everything else is just a few addons, preconfigured settings and UI changes. Even chrome was largely safari until Google forked their web engine.

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            3 months ago

            Are you not really in the tech industry? Because he’s right. And he’s sticking to facts.

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            3 months ago

            Both Brave and Chrome are built on the open-source Chromium browser engine

            That’s from the Brave website: https://brave.com/compare/chrome-vs-brave/

            Yes there are plenty of changes, but it’s built on it, and shaped by it, and Chromium is heavily influenced by Google. If chromium doesn’t support v2 manifests it is unlikely that Brave will. In this particular case it may be that Brave’s ad blocking and privacy features are equivalent to uBO, but it’s still underpinned by an engine that Google has strong influence over, so it can’t completely shake their influence.

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                3 months ago

                Look, I’m not attacking them over this, as you rightly said, it has plenty of other drawbacks and concerns, I’m just emphasising that Google do have a large degree of influence over them. For instance, Chromium is dropping manifest v2 support, so Brave pretty much has to do the same. They’ve said that, as Chromium has a switch to keep it enabled until June (iirc) they’ve enabled that, but after Chromium drops manifest v2 the most they can do is try to support a subset of it as best they can. The Brave devs may not want to drop support, but Google have decreed it will be dropped, so they end up dropping it and having to put in extra work to keep even a subset working for some period of time.

                If Brave gets even a moderate market share, Google will continue to mess them around like this as they really don’t like people not seeing their adverts.

                Ultimately it’s software, so the Brave devs can do pretty much whatever they want, limited by the available time and money. Google’s influence extends to making that either easier or harder, it much the same way as they influence the Android ecosystem.