Fair point, but there are certain conspiracies that just flood the zone. If anything I feel they aid the very intitutions they try to fight against.

However, I also do not want to participate in the constant barrage of mudslinging our media throws at working people endlessly. At the end of the day if it gets people hating the right institutions for the right reasons 🤷.

These aren’t even things you can find a direct source or wiki article on. At least op has concrete evidence/admission of their shit happening.

This is just mental masturbation right here. You are a conspiracy theorist.

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Fuck sake, I was at least expecting some sparring on the topic.

You are illiterate and I hope you get better 😘

The author is a god damn holocaust denier. Propoganda doesn’t always outright state it’s goals my friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Goodson

He is the embodiment of “jews control the banks and the world” argument.

EDIT: Verbatim in the fucking wikipedia:

“Despite his career, Goodson was also an active commentator with regards to the problems of the central banking system, writing the book A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, published by blackhouse publishing limited. In this book, the author narrates a brief history of finance and central banking in the Western world, from the Roman Republic to the 2008 financial crisis and maintains the existence of an international jewish conspiracy to control nations through banking, led mainly by the rothschild family from the 19th century onward.”

You wanna correct your statement on it not being about that now?

As another comment said this is a fallacy. This detracts from my original argument, and assumes I stated any of this in my main point. If you have questions about the argument ask questions about the direct things I said in my argument. Not shit I did not say an inkling about. Your making assumptions on positions I do not have.

Let me bite for the sake of biting.

Now if I take your loaded question as a claim, I would like a source for the hasty generalization “atheists/modernists/disenchanted are pretty much either irrelevant or clinging desperately to their position of vaning power, paralyzed, and often depressed” Part. Show me the stats.

“Religious and spiritual people are the drivers of mainstream politics and new political ideologies” That is sooo rich. Religious people have been at the front lines of halting progress across the spectrum. I guess you are right they are the drivers of mainstream political change, not good political change might I add. Whenever they do change for the good it’s because real progressives fought tooth and nail to change it on a state level. Only then do these churches catch up, and even then you have members that don’t agree/believe in the change. Some key examples of movements religions have been heinous on: Woman’s suffrage, Slavery Abolitionism, Abortion, LGBTQIA+ rights, Gaza, Access contraception/sex education, the list goes fucking on and on. Don’t even get me started on the dark money organized religions put in to get vile legislation passed.

I’m not trying to assume anything but the way you throw depression in the mix puts a bad taste in my mouth. Like it has anything to do with the other things you stated, religious people are depressed too. It isn’t secularist exclusive. The way religion handles depression is “deal with it god knew you could handle it”, “that’s not depression it’s the devil”, or even the more extreme “depression/suicide is a sin”. So if depressed religious people aren’t coming out and talking about their mental health all to often compared to atheists it doesn’t surprise me. I’ll give you a chance to correct the record and we can move on, as I do not want to detract from our argument.

Religions allow for people to discriminate just on the premise of “well it’s what I believe”. They think because it’s their belief it doesn’t have to be demonstrated or tested. Why is your religion/belief true? “Because my ancient text of choice says it’s true” ok well why is your religious text of choice true? “Because my religion/belief says it’s true”.

“Existential belief/claim in delusion with no evidence or basis in reality; A tool for the rich to exploit and sedate the masses.” That’s what I hope to change the definition to when people wake up. Obviously since definitions are descriptive and not prescriptive that isn’t what it is now. “An organized supernatural belief in a god/gods in regard to the creation of the universe.” Is what I would assume more fits how people use the word today. Even then I feel that excludes delusions such as Buddhism or individual ‘spiritual’ delusions.

Skip to your proselytizing, what delusion are you Pascal’s wagering your life on?

Friend… in a now deleted instagram post he was caught with a “international jewish conspiracy” book in the background.

Religious people are one the biggest reasons as to why we are where we are today. Anyone that tries to “respect” these delusions are also culpable. It’s the best invention to sedate the masses in their cage since sliced manna.

Krita is open source why the hell would you uninstall it?

I tried memtest86 and my ram passed all of the tests. Is there a test you would recommend outside of that?

Working on getting logs, the game is open now. I am just waiting for it to freeze again. Sorry about that should have thought of it before posting. I turned screen locking and sleep mode off so idk if that would be it.

EDIT: Actually I think you may be on to something. This is the longest the game has lasted. I did actually have screen locking and sleep mode on! I had these crashes on my original cachy install where I had it off. I then installed windows to test and I also updated my motherboard bios. The game ran fine in windows (even better because the dx12 bug was not present). So I wanted to give cachy a go again, I then reinstalled it and ran the game again and left my pc. My previous install of cachy I for sure had screen lock and sleep off.

This install I forgot, when I left the pc the game had froze again and then I posted. This time I turned it off and the game is approaching 2 hours! So I think my motherboard was unstable because of expo profiles before the bios update, The bios update fixed the previous crashes, and now the crash before this post was because of screen lock/sleep. I am gonna let it run another half hour with different settings just to make sure.

Did you use the -nolauncher launch option?

ProtonGE 10-28 is the proton I am using. I have tried proton experimental and 10-03 no dice 😕

Not true apparently it works on linux as well.

It is if you are the dense knuckle dragging ape that you seem to be.

I’m not acting like you are some villain. I am trying to test your logic.

It boils down to “BuT mUh InStInCtS”

But you did though! Your kids will suffer greatly! Suffering that they didn’t need to experience.

There is also the chance your child doesn’t fare well. Hope is useless, they will suffer from the oncoming changes to our climate I guarantee it. We all will if we don’t die before it happens.

Exactly! Now you are getting it! A child cannot give you consent from the void. So what do we do? We don’t procreate, because in the void there is no pain, no suffering. You do not exist. So we go along with OUR lives and not rip someone who may not want to be here cough me cough. What about asexual people? Are they not biologically human because they don’t have this “urge”? I thought this was instinctual so shouldn’t everyone feel this way? I surely don’t feel this need you keep rambling on about. Sex is different than having a child, I can have sex and not bring someone into suffering.

Yeah if I could end all suffering on the planet I absolutely would. Animals suffer just as much as we do if not more in some circumstances (meat industry, dairy industry, etc.). We breed so many animals as if they are fucking toys it is disgusting. Especially when there are plenty in shelters about to be put down. However there really isn’t talking to animals now is there. I am talking to people that can actually take steps to prevent suffering.

Also you seem to keep confusing the instinct of mating. Children are byproduct of that instinct, there is no instinct to reproduce. Please stop saying stuff you are confidently incorrect about.

I said you are making the same type of argument in this situation just flavored differently.

You have already made it clear that your instincts come first, not the consent of the child who will suffer.

You sound like the people who say “boys will be boys” when the “boy” rapes someone. It’s “masculine” nature as they say.

Fuck that, keep your “instincts” to yourself

Get a vasectomy if you can’t control yourself.

Oh cause that is so much better! Let’s keep perpetuating a system that doesn’t serve us! Oh the horror of this society ending!!! This comment feels like you see children as a tool and not human beings. You are only worth the value you create as this coercive system suggests. Pfft humans aren’t born valuable are you crazy! They have to prove it.

Me too friend… me too.

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