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  • DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.workstoAsk Lemmy@lemmy.worldDo you like olives?
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    6 months ago

    I used to hate olives, along with a lot of other things. Peppers. Beans. Blue cheese. And I used to tell everyone about how much I disliked stuff.

    But then I grew up. You don’t have to eat olives if you don’t want. But if you restrict your life to your little pre-approved list of acceptable foods, you’re missing out.

    Life is short. Way too short. You don’t want to discover how delicious a dirty martini with blue cheese olives is when you’re old.


  • It even goes beyond this.

    Everyone thinks they’re smarter than everyone else. Smarter than doctors, scientists, and engineers. Definitely smarter than whatever the political or ideological “other side” is.

    It’s ruining our society. When George Carlin did his bit about “how stupid the average person is”, he forgot to mention how 99% of us assume we skew into the “smarter than average” side.

    I can’t have conversations with people I used to respect, relatives, old friends, or even casual acquaintances without everyone blathering on about how stupid these people are or that group is. I hate it.





  • Yes and No. 48.

    There was never a horizon or dividing line I crossed between youth and adult. It just happened.

    I’m still the same person I was when I was 10/20/30/40. Still like cool things, still confused about why we’re all here.

    Other than my body getting real creaky and doing all kinds of weird old things, the only real difference between youth and adult is the realization that this very thread addresses. We’re all just making it up as we go. There’s no such thing as “adult”. There’s no Council of Super-Smart People running the world.

    The only thing that makes you an adult is the realization that you have to be the change you want to see in the world. That you have to be the super-smart person running things.






  • Isn’t it still kind of the same thing though?

    Star Trek calls that “matter stream” energy your “pattern”. Pattern sounds a lot like Information. Data. Which is very easy to transmit and duplicate. Data can also be lost or corrupted.

    So it’s as if they convert all your atoms to a file, then FTP your file to somewhere else where the technology turns your pattern back into matter.

    “You” can’t exist as just data, so at that point you’re already dead. I think…

    There are episodes where your pattern is stuck in the pattern buffer. You’re only information being stored at that point.



  • “Soul conceit” is the right term here. The belief humans can’t seem to shake that I am more than just the sum of my parts.

    I don’t know if I have a soul or if my consciousness is really just electric meat. But it seems that if I am more than the sum of my parts, the soulless me that comes out the other side will just be “my parts” and will be obviously different than the original me.

    If we really are just our atoms, and the technology can be trusted to reliably replicate me atom for atom on the other side then there’s nothing to be afraid of. The original you hasn’t died, it’s just ceased to exist. No big deal. The clone of you is also you, so you still exist.




  • Fair question.

    I’m assuming that if your soul really is “you” then a soulless clone of you that is identical to you down to every atom, but had no soul, would be bad.

    I don’t know if that means your soulless clone would just be an instinct driven animal, or maybe just an evil version of you that immediately grows a goatee. I don’t know what function your soul actually performs. But at some point, maybe not immediately, a bunch of soulless clones walking around would be noticed.

    Maybe? (Or maybe not?)


  • Well, if the technology actually existed, it would solve that whole “soul” question.

    We would know pretty quickly if we transported humans and they came out the other side as soulless aberrations because their original just got killed.

    So yeah, I would 100% use it after it first proved once and for all that the sum of our consciousness really is all the synapses and signals and grey matter in our heads. Because if so then what does it matter if your original matter has been erased and then recreated. Your clone is just as much you as you are you at that point.