I never browsed r/NEET so I figured I’d ask here—and besides, Fediverse communities need not be 1:1 recreations of the ones on Reddit. I just took a look and it seems to be for people suffering from the stigma on Reddit, would I be correct that it’s supposed to be the same thing here?
Genuinely curious. I’m aware the term is often used as a pejorative. Is this for people who feel they fall into that group, or anyone who technically qualifies? For example, someone who was just laid off and is now unemployed, and wasn’t receiving education or training—this person probably does not see themselves as a NEET and they and society have not yet applied that social stigma to themselves. What are the boundaries of NEET for the purposes of this community?
why not ani.social? the local feed is just anime and manga
And that’s exactly the ambiguity I was trying to get at with my last paragraph.
I’m kind of surprised I got downvoted while contrarian “source?” comments got lots of upvotes. In all honesty, it feels bad. I am not sure how I said anything anywhere near offensive that deserves disapproval, but being contrarian seems a lot more purposely meant to piss off and still meets lots of peoples’ approval.
But even still, I have gone and assumed bad faith or at best, an attempt to be funny and make people laugh through what is still in the end just contrarianism. I do not think it is possible they are genuinely asking for a source because I think we’re making claims based on general observation of the world, things that do not need to be cited, like “the sky is blue” or “things fall when you drop them”. Just look up and see (or trust the wealth of statements talking about the sky’s blueness if you are (color)blind). Perhaps I’m incorrectly assuming bad faith here based off of a trend of seeing contrarianism, and I’m incorrectly extrapolating that trend here. It is very ambiguous. I really do not think I am wrong, but given that we’re literally talking about the difficulty of determining good vs. bad faith engagement it feels a little arrogant to not acknowledge the possibility that I might be wrong.
I think the key part is whether it’s being done in good faith or bad faith. Sometimes I ask a stupid question on Lemmy, but because I am honestly curious and not trying to get into a fight, and I usually accept the reply to me and don’t take it as an invite to get into a debate, I think people can tell I’m not sealioning.
If I replied “source?” for your comment right now, I’d be trolling. I almost certainly know that it is a bad idea to discourage sourcing information, and that should not be something I need a cited source for. That would probably be sealioning. Someone asking for a source on a meme I posted is probably genuinely curious and not sealioning.
And as per usual, judging intent can be difficult, especially when people (including me) come into a forum with my own sets of biases, pieces of knowledge I have that I incorrectly assume that everyone else knows, and absence of knowledge that others incorrectly assume everyone else knows. So people who are not sealioning might get mistaken for it just because they want a source on something they do not know that most people do. I see where you are coming from.
So I thought my town did not have any food pantries, but I went to look it up anyways because of your comment. Oh wow was I wrong. Donation made partially because of your comment!
Just checked your home instance. feddit.org seems to be a Lemmy instance. I’m on Mbin, which is a totally different software. That could be the difference.
EDIT: Just checked how the comment appears your instance. It indeed shows up as one line instead of two on your Lemmy instance, though running that line through https://babelstone.co.uk/Unicode/whatisit.html confirms my suspicion that it shows it shows as an en dash, not an em dash.
I do hope you believe I’m a human ;-; you can probably go check all my comments and notice the many edits on them, because I often remember a point I want to make or think of a way I can express myself better after the fact, and I never thought being the type who comments my thoughts immediately instead carefully revising and waiting an hour or so (although to be fair, who does that?) would be the one proof of my humanity. Well, hopefully. It’s entirely possible you still believe I must be a bot, because they have probably gotten good at mimicking humans, including professions to be human and not bots, given how many sci-fi stories are written with robots and humans interacting and proof being needed or whatever. (Wouldn’t know, don’t use them myself.)
I typed from a phone. Creating an em dash is holding down on the hyphen button (which is already a bit of extra effort to get to) and sliding over two keys, pretty easy and fast. I just tested typing an em dash on my computer. I do not actually have an alt key due to being a Mac user (maybe newer ones or older ones have it?). For me, it’s Option+Shift+the hyphen key. It is slower to type an em dash for me than just a plain hyphen on both phone and computer, but not slow enough or irritating enough for me to make me choose not to. I feel my stubborn insistence on using em dashes, despite the disadvantage it gives me on getting perceived as a human being, could in itself be proof of my humanity, because what else do I gain besides a speck of affirmation of my identity as the type of person who still wants to use em dashes? Although of course only in this conversation, because most people who think me botlike would probably dismiss me as a bot and move on instead of replying to me and saying why they think I’m a bot: no chance to defend myself, and why would you let what you think to be a bot spew more slop at you about its supposed humanity? I’m also already comfortable using em dashes, maybe a fraction of a second wasted, whereas rewording my sentences, my train-of-thought run-on sentences typed straight from my stream of consciousness, to avoid em dashes is more effort for me, personally. Although you could make the argument that given my willingness to learn to do things the right way, I ought to type without run-on sentences and give people more of a signal I’m not a bot, and drop the em dashes so I am one less false negative when using the “em dash automatically equals bot” strategy.
Not saying you think I specifically am a bot, of course ;) Your approach probably works too. I learned to type in your manner because people did it on tumblr and I used to use that site. Bots do lean towards more formal grammar correctness, but I wouldn’t write off the possibility of telling it to type informally, without capital letters, and with the occasional omission of punctuation when not needed for expression or clarity. Or straight up telling them to write like they are on tumblr. However, I would write off a human lazy enough to use a bot to impersonate people as not bothering to try to vary the typing styles.
+1 for the second paragraph, I do both. !boinc@sopuli.xyz
I think it’s because most people don’t bother learning, but I’d guess people writing books (or at least their editors) would know. AI eats up all the books and learns how to use em dashes. The majority of the internet-using population does not use it. And so you get the heuristic that em dash = AI. This is just a total guess, by the way.
Looked up the difference between hyphens, em dashes, and en dashes in high school. Maybe for curiosity, maybe for some assignment, I forget by now. Started using em and en dashes, not going to stop now.
Sorry! I guess it just did not federate over to me. If you check my instance’s copy of this it says “trash snacks”
You may want to edit the title, it says “trash snacks”
If the world had a population of friendly vampires I wonder how many more people the donor pool would gain…
I have seen one get used, and played in a musical theatre pit that called for a theremin player who could also play trumpet. That’s the only relevant stuff I have to say. Best wishes with the community!
You’re absolutely right! I figured I’d glom onto something established first, but I’d rather have an active mod especially since this does not seem to have grown too big. Do I need to sign up for your community? I remember moderation being… iffy between instances, especially if it’s an Mbin/Lemmy jump.
Social sciences are super cool and fascinating, but I ultimately went non-social-science STEM. How about you?
A Systems Thinking one
https://youtu.be/WO23WBji_Z0