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If a single individual on government assistance was unable to account for $300 we would hear so much outrage from the media on it alongside vocal demands to slash the welfare budget. Yet when a government agency that has “never passed a comprehensive audit” just gives a when asked to account for the bulk of their $3 trillion budget, the response is apparently to just…give them more money?

Why are the politicians responsible for this (and I’m sure there are quite a few of them) not in constant fear for their lives right now?

Analysts warn that consumer spending will likely slump into the holidays and possibly extend into next year.

Post hog, liberal.

Hell, half of American politicians refuse to acknowledge climate change even exists.

Can we get an embargo on the US?

They’ve done plenty to show their support for pro-choice

Except for actually enshrining it into law, which, you know, would have been the most supportive thing they could have done, given that their whole jobs are to make laws. Spoiler alert: they don’t want to because it’s a useful wedge issue for them.

No I didn’t. I demonstrated why it was BS cherry picking by pointing out a glaring and important omission.

Which I’ve rebutted, multiple times, and you still haven’t responded to. How many times has the Biden offshore drilling expansion been brought up? Three, four times now?

They are still moving in the right direction

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/biden-offshore-drilling-plan-climate/index.html

Read the fucking article already. It is a direct rebuttal to your “well at least Democrats are trying” argument and it’s been brought up multiple times now. If you’re not going to bother responding to it I’m just going to tell you to shut the fuck up. The end results of the Dem’s baby steps in the “right direction” and GOP’s complete climate inaction is the same: complete environmental collapse. Yes, Dems are doing something rather than nothing, congratulations. But when it means an unlivable hellscape in 21 years instead of 20 years, don’t act shocked when people compare the two parties and find the fundamental differences lacking.

You are mad at me for not moving with the goal posts

The goal posts are exactly where they started, you’ve just failed to comprehend the points being made. Or just blatantly ignored them.

The argument is that they are the same

As I’ve already explained to you, “both parties are the same” means “both parties serve capital.” It does not mean “both parties are literally exactly the same with no differences whatsoever.” Are you that baby brained that you are unable to grasp this very simple concept? You keep acting smugly superior because “well bloo team did this one thing that red team didn’t do, therefore they aren’t literally exactly the same thing, checkmate ” like my god, I actually clarified this a few comments up. Stop assuming what other people are saying and listen to what they’re saying.

I said environment, you pretend that it was just climate change. I pointed out that they passed a bill with a large focus on climate change. You just whine it doesn’t count. I cited an article that you just blatantly ignored. lol, my man, you’ve rebutted nothing.

Yes I read your article. “A growing number of blue states are adopting sweeping new climate laws — such as New York’s bill, passed this week, to zero out net greenhouse gas emissions by 2050” wow great job, they’re planning to zero emissions long after the planet has already been destroyed, amazing, totally doesn’t support my point that the shit Democrats are doing isn’t going to result in meaningful results that are any different from the GOP’s plan of nothing at all.

You just whine it doesn’t count

I pointed out that it will not result in anything substantial, especially considering the other actions they’ve taken. If neither party will ever stand up to capital and the end result is in all scenarios is the planet being turned into an uninhabitable hellscape, why should anyone treat them differently?

Democrats can’t really do much when Republicans block appointments to the SCOTUS because “it’s an election year”, then turn around and contradict themselves and appoint a SCOTUS during an election year. And, again, they can’t do much when they have a slim majority, and things can be blocked by a filibuster or a handful of democrats dissenting from the party.

Dems had multiple opportunities in the nearly 50 years Roe was active where they had control of both chambers of congress and the presidency, in which they could have easily enshrined abortion rights into law. Likewise for abolishing the filibuster. Why haven’t they?

Again, I said the environment, not just Climate change

Again, the diagram addresses far more than climate change/the environment. You said the entire diagram was “dishonest cherry picking,” yet here you are dishonestly cherry picking one small point while ignoring everything else presented on the image.

democrats just passed a significant climate bill (even if it isn’t enough). No longer can one claim they are doing nothing at the federal level but paying lip service.

Why should anyone bother responding to you if you’re going to ignore everything they say and just repeat the same points over and over again after they’ve been rebutted? Scroll up and read my other comments again, I’m not repeating myself.

why obfuscate the point that they are only the same on a subset of things and ignore all the important ways they are different

So all the points in the middle of the diagram just aren’t important? The fact that both parties only serve capital doesn’t matter to you? Both parties rubber stamping endless defense budget increases while healthcare crumbles is insignificant? Both parties providing full, unconditional support and funding to a genocidal apartheid state doesn’t matter because the bloo team did a single bill promising to reduce carbon emissions by a little bit (then completely negated it by opening up more oil drilling)?

In what important ways have they actually made a difference (and don’t fucking go on about “but the environment” again unless you have something new to say that hasn’t already been rebutted)?

There are things on which they are drastically different.

Things which Democrats do little to nothing about. Remind me how abortion rights are going, again?

Am I supposed to address every little point on it?

I’m just asking you to back up the arguments you made, buddy. You insisted the entire diagram I provided was “dishonest” “cherry picking” and “sophomoric” and all I want is for you to do is explain exactly how, which you refuse to do aside from going on about climate change, one point among many that were presented.

But that doesn’t change the fact that with republicans we would do nothing.

So “doing nothing” and “doing a tiny bit of something then immediately negating it with something worse” are totally different things that we need to respect, got it.

Ah, so we agree both sides are not the same

“Both parties are the same” means “both parties only serve capital.” This isn’t a very complex point and you only make yourself look foolish by failing to grasp it.

Lol at the smuglord image after posting a sophomoric oversimplified venn diagram while tapping it. You win biggest projection of the day.

Then how about actually addressing the fucking points? If it’s such a “sophomoric oversimplified venn diagram” as you claim, then explain to the class how it’s sophomoric and oversimplified. Engage with the content and stop being such a coward.

But that being said, just last year the Dems passed the inflation reduction act

Reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 40% below 2005 levels aka too little too late. And Biden opened up a bunch of offshore drilling negating any climate impact that bill might have had. Great job, Democrats.

which was the most significant bill in us history to address climate change.

You say that like it’s a high bar.

But whatever I’m sure is the republicans would have done the same thing.

At least the Republicans are up front about how awful they are and don’t pretend to help by pissing on us as they throw more fuel on the fire.

Sure they’re not literally identical, but both are fascist parties that have more ideological similarities then they do differences. And the Nazi ideology is on record taking inspiration from Jim Crow laws in the US.

Earth is still on track to be completely uninhabitable by the end of the century but hey, Dems pay lip service to climate change so kudos to them!

dishonest cherry picking

What part of this image is dishonest? Be specific. You clearly didn’t even bother to look very closely at it, since you failed to notice how your “yeah well what about environmental issues ” rebuttal had already been directly addressed by the very diagram you were responding to.

Both Nazis and Republicans are right wing…but you’re smart enough to realize they aren’t the same, correct?

This comparison really isn’t helping your point lmao

In that case *taps sign*

My mistake, I meant “both parties,” as in Democrats and Republicans.

This shit is going to pass with full bipartisan support and libs are still going to be confused the next time someone tells them both sides parties are the same.

Damn guess the US better start investing in public transport then.

“I know you are, but what am I” Took you an entire day to come up with that zinger of a comeback?

Anything can be true when you just make shit the fuck up.

Right because communists are famously known for tolerating Nazis. Ask the Red Army how they felt about the Nazis in Berlin back in 1945.

If you think communism and fascism are the same then you don’t understand either.