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  • Conflict doesn’t equal armed insurrection or the assassination of political leaders. He can lose at the ballot box and die penniless. I’m fully aware of what a monster he is. Are we cool with assassinating other R’s? Some are just as vile if not more than him.

    Where’s the line? Who gets to decide who lives and dies? You? I’m sure you’re a nice and reasonable person, but I don’t trust you with that decision, let alone a gun nut, conspiracy theorist Trump voter. How long before someone retaliates and turns a gun on [insert favorite politician here]? Was the cycle of violence worth it then?




  • I am not remotely arguing against subsistence farming or hunting. Hell even hunting meat yourself that you consume. I wouldn’t do it willingly, but that doesn’t make it inherently immoral.

    People are detached from the method of making their meat. It is far more unpleasant than most want to think about. The animals are mistreated. It’s hard to argue they aren’t. That’s really the point

    I am underestimating no one. I do not remotely doubt humanity’s capacity for violence and depravity. I am saying that we as people can choose to minimize harm and violence (to each other, animals we farm, etc)

    edit: I should also point out that we are FAR past the point of “subsistence” with out meat consumption. We consume more meat now than ever before. There are many costs associated with this to our health, the animals we eat, the planet …







  • The systems by which we produce meat are intentional. Just because the people who set them up and benefit from them don’t care doesn’t mean these farms can exist outside morality.

    Inflicting pain on an animal to save its life is directly related to your point. Raising animals in objectively painful and squalid conditions so they can be slaughtered is not at all the same.

    You are equating saving the life of a human to the torture and slaughtering of an animals. They are not analogous