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  • other elections, primaries

    but those are both votes

    ideally, yeah, if you wanted to exercise pressure on the biden administration, you wouldn’t withhold your vote in this specific election, but those “other elections” have already passed

    you could vote differently for the house and senate, but arguably that might actually lead to a worse outcome

    donations

    if you’re very rich, then maybe, but most people aren’t

    general social pressure

    general social pressure means very little without votes to back it up

    sanders has a tidal wave of social pressure behind him, but then lost the primary, so nothing changed

    it’s why every time a politician tries to campaign for young voters, they crash and burn, because while young voters often inflict the most social pressure, they never actually go and vote

    The alternative is to abstain or vote for someone with no chance

    the point isn’t to vote for the person to get them into office

    the point is to vote for the person whose policies you prefer, so that you shift the other candidates closer to that position

    yeah, 4 years of a very bad candidate is worse than 4 years of a meh candidate, but if you vote that way forever your candidate will never be anything more than meh

    appoint three SCOTUS justices, irreversibly damage the environment, and pass voting “reform” to lessen the impact of your future votes

    if you think this outweighs the benefit of improving the democrat position going forward, and that’s a perfectly reasonable position to have, then sure vote for them

    but don’t act like you never had any choice in the matter, or that voting for somebody else would be meaningless






  • why on earth would any party listen to what you have to say if you preface everything you’re campaigning for with “by the way, i’m still going to vote for you”

    your vote is all they want in this scenario

    it would be like opening a negotiation with “by the way, i’m absolutely going to pay whatever price you think is fair at the end of this, but i’d like you to consider giving me a discount anyway”



  • Not voting isn’t going to stop the genocide in Gaza.

    maybe it will stop the next one though

    if democrats learn that allowing a genocide to unfold on their watch is going to lose them elections, you can bet they’ll put more effort into stopping it

    if democrats learn that allowing genocide to unfold on their watch actually doesn’t make that much difference, why would they bother themselves to stop it?

    A vote is not an unconditional endorsement

    a vote for a candidate is an endorsement for all of their policies, whether you want it to be or not

    your reluctant vote looks exactly the same on the tally as somebody else’s wholehearted vote, and votes are what politicians base their platforms on.

    If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

    this is just a misconception

    if the democrats lose a million votes to a third party, then yeah, they’re going to modify their policies next time around