To support decentralization and spread, should lemmy.world close registration at some point to prevent a performance overload due to too many users? Of course, if registration is disabled, there could be a hint placed somewhere near that from other instances you can interact with content on lemmy.world just like you had registered on it. There could be a link to join-lemmys instance overview.

  • zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think no.

    I’m having the same issues with pages not loading as everybody else - but this is a critical moment for Lemmy. A site like this only works if it has a lot of users - the more signups the better.

    I understand that new users can sign up for other instances, and still see and interact with lemmy.world content - but I think adding any barrier to entry at all will potentially discourage a huge number of new users. As a rule, new users have no idea how lemmy, federation, instances, etc work - and telling them they can’t sign up and to consider another instance will probably end with a lot of them just giving up and sticking to reddit.

    The server issues will pass, but stunting our growth at such a critical stage might not. It’s bad enough that beehaw defederated at a time like this.

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      1 year ago

      I think Beehaw defederating was a good thing. Their rules are pretty totalitarian. It would have happened eventually anyway, better to do it sooner to effect the least amount of content I get.

    • Pacers31Colts18@lemmy.world
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      I honestly think during the sign up the registration to a server needs to be randomized to spread the load. That and allow the user counts to be global and not just to your instance and you then have user load balancing.

      If we could also migrate our data between servers with a backup server option. When lemmy.world goes down, just switch to a different randomized backup server.

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        1 year ago

        The danger in randomizing servers is that some smaller servers not only have less than 99% uptime but are also just run by random regular people who couldn’t handle the increased load and/or have no desire or ability to keep the servers running long term. It could maybe work if the randomization occurs from within a vetted list.

        Account migration is a feature that has been noted for the future and would indeed be very important since it would essentially make the entire network bulletproof. Being able to move instances and/or link accounts across multiple instances would create the necessary redundancy and reduce fears of choosing a smaller instance as home.

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      1 year ago

      I agree, I initially focused on Lemmy.world but as I understood the Fedverse better I shifted to a smaller instance. I think we need to let people get into Lemmy, and then people will naturally spread out.

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      1 year ago

      What’s to stop .world “defederating” and cutting all the new users off completely.

      It’s an odd platform and one that feels like it could all fall apart to someone completely new to it all.

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        1 year ago

        Well Ruud who runs .world also runs Mastodon.world which is a fairly large mastodon instance, so he is somewhat of a known quantity and has experience running large Fediverse servers. His mastodon server has handled a large population and donations happen through Open Collective for transparency as well. He also runs Calckey.world though that is much smaller.

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            Not really. Also by your logic you can’t trust anyone ever because there is always a risk they turn bad at some point in the future. All we can do is evaluate what we have in front of us at the moment. Current evidence suggests Ruud is trustworthy, committed and capable of running a large Fediverse instance.

  • DoruDoLasu@kbin.cafe
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    1 year ago

    nope, that would make the experience way worse with federation not working well with communities. like for example I’ve made a community over on lemmy.world and it has a couple of members and a few posts in it, but I can’t see it from any other lemmy instances I’ve tried (unless it doesn’t work if you’re not logged in). you can kinda make kbin see it but to make posts appear you have to search for them and if you search for them before you search for the community, they appear in a random magazine and then when the magazine for that community is created the posts that were put in random stay there and never return… so yeah…

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    One of the great things about lemmy.world’s insane user count growth is actual live stress testing of Lemmy software. Instead of having an open question of how Lemmy might scale with large instances, there’s now real world production systems providing that opportunity.

    The technical issues will pass, but the notion that merely spreading out the load will alleviate them is probably just treating the symptom than the cause.

    I suppose from my PoV I see this as very much live testing in production and have adjusted my expectations around that instead of anticipating a wholly seamless experience.