And if something did maybe happen, it’s the CIA’s fault

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    27 days ago

    The people control that regime in a much more robust democracy than the US has.

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        Criticizing a “regime” run by democracy, both direct and representative, is criticizing the people. It’s also criticizing a race, in this case, as you people never evolved past the “sneaky Chinaman” stereotype in your criticisms.

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          No, again, it’s not. Once elected the government can go against the people’s will. Try again.

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            Every communist state to my knowledge has instant recall; if an elected official isn’t doing what you want, you can get signatures to force a recall vote.

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          So because you assume China to be a democracy, other people are racist for criticizing the government?

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      Let’s agree that both are bad. What is your goal with this whataboutism?

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        The implication of what they’re saying is that the Chinese government’s actions generally represent the will of the Chinese people so you can’t just separate them like you can with America.

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          Do you agree with this implication or did you just explain it to me? Because I would never equate the actions of the government of a nation state with the people who happen to live there

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                  I don’t know how much you can trust the narrative when the media is all state controlled and anti-party speech is at best minimized, at worst censored. Total state control of the narrative is not conducive to free and fair elections, not to mention a police state. Before you whatabout, I’m well aware that the US is a police state and is controlled by two parties of neo-libs. I’m no supporter of the US, but I’m also no supporter of any autocratic regime. Calling the PRC a fair democracy is at best willfully ignoring the extreme state control over information, at worst denying a tyrannic despot twisting socialism into an autocratic, capitalist dictatorship while silencing opposition.