and the new version of all the software that is still running with the old version.
That’s why it’s recommended to reboot after a major update, and usually there is a notification for that. But there is usually no need to rush the reboot if you work on something.
If one needs a certain release of a program I guess using the AppImage version would be the best.
but that’s where it becomes more serious: when basic functions of the system fail, silently. when you can’t even reboot without a terminal, because the reboot dialog crashes
It actually doesn’t crash, it just cannot show the requirement of the root password in a dialog. I think this can be fixed via lengthen the timeout of polkit. Though I can understand why most distros don’t change the default time because of security reasons. It would be nice if they give an option for it, at least for personal use cases. However, completely removing that timeout would be a security problem, even if the only user is you.
requirement of the root password? why would it need that, when it normally doesn’t? to clarify, I didn’t mean the “sudo reboot” command, but the reboot button in the KDE application launcher
systemd always requires root password for poweroff and reboot commands and polkit does that for you normally when using GUI. However that problem occurs when polkit timeout runs out. I don’t know the exact mechanism behind it so I cannot tell exactly when it happens. When it doesn’t do that, those commands don’t run via a GUI. So this is on part systemd and part the distro.
That’s why it’s recommended to reboot after a major update, and usually there is a notification for that. But there is usually no need to rush the reboot if you work on something.
If one needs a certain release of a program I guess using the AppImage version would be the best.
but that’s where it becomes more serious: when basic functions of the system fail, silently. when you can’t even reboot without a terminal, because the reboot dialog crashes
It actually doesn’t crash, it just cannot show the requirement of the root password in a dialog. I think this can be fixed via lengthen the timeout of polkit. Though I can understand why most distros don’t change the default time because of security reasons. It would be nice if they give an option for it, at least for personal use cases. However, completely removing that timeout would be a security problem, even if the only user is you.
requirement of the root password? why would it need that, when it normally doesn’t? to clarify, I didn’t mean the “sudo reboot” command, but the reboot button in the KDE application launcher
systemd always requires root password for poweroff and reboot commands and polkit does that for you normally when using GUI. However that problem occurs when polkit timeout runs out. I don’t know the exact mechanism behind it so I cannot tell exactly when it happens. When it doesn’t do that, those commands don’t run via a GUI. So this is on part systemd and part the distro.