• Blamemeta@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Its more than that. Its bland. Fucking Skyrim had more going for it than neon. Tavern wenches shows more skin than Neon Workers. People actually bleed in skyrim. Drugs even, I think skooma has better writing tham Aurora.

    SF is just corporate.

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      1 year ago

      Tavern wenches shows more skin than Neon Workers.

      The fuck?

      People actually bleed in skyrim. Drugs even, I think skooma has better writing tham Aurora.

      Uh huh…

      SF is just corporate.

      Or…maybe just going for a different tone that doesn't fit your dark gritty sensibilities?

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        1 year ago

        Maybe, but it feels more corporate and sterile than just a different tone. Like they wanted more but had to reign it in.

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          1 year ago

          There's literally no evidence they ever considered another tone. They were clearly going for a Star Trek tone, not a space opera.

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            1 year ago

            Considering all their past recent games had those aspects at least somewhat… It's odd that they sterilized it so much in comparison.

            Compare that to BG3 where there's like… Full on sex and people can explode into a bloody mess

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              1 year ago

              Okay, but just because they're not titillating the desires of teenage boys doesn't mean they "sold out" or "got more corporate". They've been pretty consistent about presenting their creative vision for the game since the beginning.

              Also, you're premise is wrong. I just shot the hell out of someone iin the game and there were absolutely blood splatters all over the wall and floor. Have you played the game, or are you meming influencers?

              That said, I would never consider Beth games to be particularly risque. They've always faded out sex scenes. Oblivion and Skyrim aren't particularly bloody games. Fallout's bloodiness is more in line with the IP and considerably tame compared to Obsidian's games.

              Maybe you're thinking of mods. I dunno.

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                1 year ago

                There is blood splatter, but it looks silly, when you loot things off of dead bodies they still have the same suit/helmet/whatever left on their bodies you supposedly just looted.

                I've put over a hundred hours into the game, I'm not a teenager, and the game is definitely more tame/sterile/corporate in many aspects compared to previous games. Remember bloody mess in Fallout? Or the fact you can goo enemies with laser weapons? Yes fallout under beth is definitely more tame even then compared to Fallout 1 and 2 but still Starfield has none of that.

                There's dibellla in Elder Scrolls, and cannibalism, and skeletons (im mot talking about like necromancer skeletons, literally bones for corpses of prior-dead, in Starfield there are corpses but it's always the "frozen over" look, even on warm planets with atmosphere where decomposition should definitely have taken place instead)

                Need I say more?

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                  The blood looks way better than vanilla Skyrim did…

                  Also you've gone from calling the game "corporate" to "tame/sterile" which seems to be an admission that you now understand this was a purposeful and consistent creative choice towards building a "positive sci-fi" world ala Star Trek. A choice they were pretty clear to market and a choice you disagree with. That's fine. It doesn't mean it's a bad game, it just means you weren't paying attention and bamboozled yourself into thinking this game was ever designed for your sensibilities. Not every game made by a studio will be the same - especially when it's a new IP. Hell, Tango made Evil Within and Ghostwire then turned around and built Hi-FI Rush.

                  Oh well. But since it's a Beth game, you can be rest assured that there will be a ton of mods to help your realize your dream of watching people die and decompose in the most realistic way possible. Heck, there are probably already a bunch that do.

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                    1 year ago

                    Lol alright bud

                    I disagree they said it was Star Trek like at all, this is most definitely not Star Trek utopia the game, you've got Neon as a shining example of the corruption and corporate espionage aspects (not that it's a bad thing at all, just not in line with classic trek ideals)

                    I know newer trek has moved away from the utopia aspects a lot, partially why I don't enjoy them nearly as much.

                    I do think (like with most beth games) the game itself is a great framework for modders to really make the game their own.

                    Oh, also, I never said it was a bad game, I just noticed they sanitized it a lot compared to what I was expecting, it was noticable to me as some who who has thousands of hours in prior beth games, modded and unmodded.