Summary

A U.S. appeals court has blocked Donald Trump’s executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship for children of non-citizen parents.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the Trump administration’s emergency stay request, upholding a lower court’s nationwide injunction.

The ruling, made by a three-judge panel, argued that citizenship rights under the 14th Amendment are beyond presidential authority to alter.

The Justice Department is appealing similar rulings in other states, and the case may ultimately reach the Supreme Court. Arguments in the 9th Circuit case are set for June.

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        Does it even need to? It’s very clear wording. There is literally no argument you could make that can misinterpret the language. It’s like the singular thing in the constitution that is extremely clear language.

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          You seem to think they give a shit what the constitution says in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

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            The problem is, if he can somehow get rid of birthright citizenship, then no one is an American.

            It doesn’t just affect potential immigrants, it affects every human born in the US, past and present.

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      He’s mostly followed rulings so far, so yes

      Edit: and to clarify, I mean this in a “fight every fight” kind of way. Don’t give in and assume all fights are hopeless. That is exactly what Trump et al want from you. Use every tool to fight back

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        Lol, Expect for all the ones that he hasn’t.

        Are you uninformed? Or intentionally ilinformed?

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          My point is more so to fight every damn fight

          Assuming that it’s all worthless is exactly what Trump wants from everyone

          For what it’s worth, there are threats of contempt of court in some of those deliberate misinterpretations of the court

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    Trump Proposes X.
    Media: “Trump can’t do X.”
    Trump [Does it anyway.]
    Media: “Judge says Trump can’t do X.”
    Trump: [Does it anyway.]
    Media: “Trump uses executive order to do X.”
    Trump: [Was doing it from the start.]

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    “That’s what the WOKE JUDGES say, but WE ALL KNOW they’re not Americans!”

    Yes, I threw up in my mouth a little bit having to come up with that. But the fact is that they can just ignore the courts and the Constitution, because who’s going to stop them? The Department of Justice?

    It’s going to have to be you. And me. And our friends, family, neighbors. We’re on the fourth box, and making use of it will entail conflicts far worse than this country has previously experienced.

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      Edit: By downvoting me you are advocating for violence.

      I think it’s too soon to say we’re on the fourth box already. Let’s wait until SCOTUS and the impeachment in Congress fail.

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        i don’t advocate for violence but we should surely do more than wait for the coming failure

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          You first, friend. Lock and load, am I right?

          Or… we could actually exhaust legal avenues before we start shooting.

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            For the record, I wasn’t advocating a civil war. I was predicting one.

            Give me a reason to think this will end any other way.

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        The SCOTUS that ruled that this sitting president cannot be criminally charged for anything he does while in office, as long as it’s an “official act”? This president who recently echoed Napoleon and Nixon with “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law”? Who sits in the White House that repeated his “LONG LIVE THE KING” statement with a picture of him as a king?

        Or did I miss a /s on your comment?

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          You’re literally advocating for a civil war, and used the “four boxes” analogy. We haven’t finished with the first three boxes yet.

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      The current version of Constitution doesn’t support installing Monarchy. You would need to fork Constitution, and release a new version that does. Then, you would need to uninstall Democracy, JusticeSystem, and a long list of other packages. Then, you can install your custom version of Constitution and Monarchy.

      Doing so is not recommended, since severe stability issues have been reported by many countries that have tried it. If you break your country, you can keep the pieces.

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        Part of the problem is that we are on US Constitution 2.27 (version 1 was a buggy mess and quickly re-written). Unfortunately, the v2 underlying engine was only built to be compliant with the “Democratic Republic 1787” set of standards. It was almost immediately patched in the 2.10 release to be compliant with the DR1789 revision, but required a major rework to be compliant with DR1865 and another for DR1920. subsequent point releases have generally been performance tweaks and bugfixes.

        However, now it turns out that bad actors have exploited unpublished vulnerabilities that were open secrets within the dev community, and those bad actors are now largely in control of the production instance. The Steering Committee is supposed to bring on new members in 7 quarters, but it remains to be seen if the userbase will care enough make the right recommendations.

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          LOL. That was hilarious… and depressing. Turns out, when you look at politics and history through the lenses of software development, it becomes a lot funnier to read.