Summary
French President Emmanuel Macron publicly corrected Donald Trump in the Oval Office after Trump falsely claimed Europe was only “loaning” money to Ukraine.
Macron clarified that Europe provided 60% of Ukraine’s wartime aid as grants and guarantees, not loans. Trump smirked but did not contest the correction.
The exchange came as Trump softened his stance on Russia, including voting against a UN resolution for Russia’s withdrawal from Ukraine.
Literally the most polite possible interaction by Macron.
Outrage farming media - “BRUTAL FACT CHECK”
He didn’t SLAM him, so I can’t take the headline seriously
It is to the French. That’s a very typical slam.
How does it compare to BLASTING, though?
Turn the volume down, it’s going to hurt your ears.
Toss in slamming someone in a diplomatic meeting is done with a lot different language than on the street corner and yelling “In your face!”
Or in a classroom saying “boom! Got em!” After your classmate realized you’re the one who swapped chairs cause you had the one who had the chair that made fart noises.
Sadly it’s more than most people have done, and that’s including the media.
brutally fact checks
This administration is going to kill so many people and liberals are just going to wag their fingers
What do you suggest a president do during a diplomatic meeting with another president other than saying words?
Take a swing at him.
Well its good you’re not a diplomat.
The world would be a very different place if Trump couldn’t safely approach a foreign leader without getting his fists up.
It would be very different. It would be a place without diplomacy. Agreeing to not attack diplomats is the most important prerequisite for diplomacy.
If you can’t send someone to talk things out then war is the first and only way for nations to resolve any conflict. I don’t think you want to live in that world.
what the actual fuck. we voted against russia withdrawing form ukraine. no offense fellow americans but I hate an aweful lot of you. If your a great person in every other way and you voted for this. well your still an asshole.
Only 28% of American adults voted for this. I voted against fascist every chance I could over the last 8 years and now I am trying to move my family out of the US to escape this neonazi dumpster fire… So please don’t hate us all
yeah there is a reason I said voted for it. I did not even add or did not vote against it so I feel I was being pretty restrained in my comment limiting to half the ones who brought him to the position actively and not the ones who did through apathy. I unfortunately are not in position to move out.
Oh, don’t worry. We hate them too
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Not only Trump’s argument was bullshit, it also shows to the world that he is incapable of understanding the concept of doing the right thing if it doesn’t profit him in some way. The man is completely devoid of compassion and does not understand the struggles of anyone who isn’t in his position as a billionaire.
To him, the only struggle that matters is the “struggle” of billionaires like him who might have to give some money back to the society that made their fortune and to reduce human suffering. When you hear him talk, you can clearly tell that in his mind, paying taxes is the worst atrocity to ever exist and no sacrifice is too big to remedy that. He will happily feed an entire country into the clutches of a brutal autocracy and destroy an entire government that people depend on to not starve to death just so he and other billionaires like him can pay lower taxes.
Stop voting for rich people. They are completely disconnected from reality and clearly mentally ill.
No no no, you don’t understand, the hate isn’t egomaniac, it’s actually a kind of psychotic hate that costs and is expensive. It’s not about profit. He is hanging on to a specific genital due to fear and he is defending his self destructive hate spiral by withdrawing into a psychosis that is shared with several tragic other self destructive manchilds that are also afraid that they aren’t being relevant to others because the kids actually aren’t respecting them. And the only way the death cult psychosis can move is toward a grievous hara kiri gash because they believe it is revenge on the imagined injustice and outrage over the slander the god emperor cult head has been met with at every turn that their mass psychosis has been offered a way out of their fatal ailment. Pretty tragic but it’s way beyond money, it’s already been distributed
The funniest thing was Trumps reaction.
He couldn’t keep the ridiculous stone face, and when attempting to make a smirk and eye-roll to show disregard or whatever that juvenile expression is supposed to show, he couldn’t even do that with any confidence.
Ngl, I’d like to see just a tiny bit more brutality in the next face check. Macron was downright civil.
Oh yeah. So brutal. Brutally touching each other. Touch me more brutally Donny
I really wish the media would stop misusing words for clicks.
He interrupted Trump to firmly fact check him.
“Brutally”? Look at what they did to my boy “slammed”. Suddenly brutally is going to mean, gently.
Weird way to call our president a moron
More of this from everyone please.
I’m not a fan of Macron, but at least he’s willing to call bullshit when bullshit is presented to him.
Macron is a smooth operator isn’t he?
Not according to his poll numbers
Indeed, Macron shut the Orange shit stain down.
Maybe next time he can brutally curb check trump?
The Irish would like to show him how we kiss.
And he would look lovely in a Columbian necktie.
The summary at the top is misleading or outdated. Macron said that europe paid 60% of the costs including loans.
“No, in fact, to be frank, we paid,” Macron said to Trump. “We paid 60 percent of the total effort, and it was through, like the U.S., loans, guarantee, grants, and we provided real money, to be clear.”
Does anyone have an actual reference for the percentage of loans? Also percentage of european payments?
It’s very hard to find these numbers because capitalist media wants to call loans “aid” instead of extortion.
edit: I found a chart that might support 60% of financial aid being from europe, but ofc it doesn’t break down the loans/extraction.
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edit3: Yep, the “aid” from the EU and France is almost entirely war profiteering according to this source.
European here. No, it’s most definitely not all loans.
https://www.regeringen.se/regeringens-politik/sveriges-stod-till-ukraina/
Psst. The Ukraine war isn’t about your soapbox.
please don’t make me cheer for this excuse of a man
