Now that Reddit sucks, this app is sure to take off. I’ve been banned for 3 days, but you best believe when I’m back I’m going to be recommending this app to people.
Checkout https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/fedibridge it’s commited to helping guide people to Lemmy.
I like to use something like
Try out the European-Hosted Reddit alternative called Lemmy, https://phtn.app/
It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install
To guide people.
Thank you!
Aaaand it’s gone, and I’ve been banned from the sub.
got 80,000 views and 1300 upvotes before is disappeared though, so I see that as a win, I’m sure a few people signed up.
To be fair, I was spamming should have read the rules better, a warning would have been nice.
There’s no warnings under fascism. Just swift and silent executions.
Will add to the presumably long list, I signed up because of the post.
I signed up!
I’m here because of that post lol
And @beanstalk@lemm.ee, welcome. Others have recommended some useful communities, but as you join the Fediverse, which is distributed across many servers, a useful way to find new communities you like is: https://lemmyverse.net/communities
There are also an absolute ton of free and open source app choices. I personally prefer Thunder for the customizable options, but everyone has their preferences.
Enjoy exploring!
Same lol
Welcome! We’ve got memes on deck at !memes@lemmy.world and if you’re a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch and be sure to drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or if you want SCIENCE and memes head over to the wonderful !science_memes@mander.xyz or if you just want regular SCIENCE mander.xyz is full of sciency comms like !science@mander.xyz and !astronomy@mander.xyz . !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone is also nice this time of year, but you’ll have to post before you can leave.
We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on the Tankie Triad lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For most instances you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. If you want to see what they get up to from a safe distant check !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Wait. I’m too new to understand the second part of this. What are Tankies? What’s up with the .ml instance? Is the meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works like an observatory of .ml shenanigans? Sorry, I’m honestly out of the loop
Edit: interesting responses. Thank you all for your input! :)
Tankies are people who play apologetics for authoritarian dictators who have claimed to be socialist or communist, and who will often excuse any action in opposition to “the west”.
More formally, they’re the cathartic branch of Marxist-Leninists (MLs). Lemmy’s a small space, and it’s a place that many MLs landed after bouncing off of Reddit, and the core developers count themselves as MLs.
The flagship Lemmy server is lemmy.ml, but the Tankie trolls have their own server, lemmygrad.ml where they go and be all 4chan-like.
There’s a diagram that illustrates this pretty well:
Is the meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works like an observatory of .ml shenanigans?
Yes, it was started as an observatory of lemmygrad.ml, but it’s also relevant to lemmy.ml and hexbear.net (the Tankie triad). There are also !tankiejerk@lemmy.world, which just focuses on all kinds of tankies from all instances, !fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which focuses on disinformation (again, from all instances) and !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which focuses on moderator overreach (for all instances). It’s also the official, approved and recommended way of complaining about mod action here on lemmy.dbzer0.com.
what political theorist created this? or is it just a random meme sourced from a dream?
It originated somewhere here on Lemmy, can’t find the original post, only a comment that references it: https://lemmy.zip/comment/10082020 (I know that this is not the original post/comment, because that commenter is on lemmy.zip, so they can’t upload media to lemmy.dbzer0.com’s pictrs instance)
I’m not saying this is a fact, or anything scientific (I’m sorry if it appeared that way), but I personally find it pretty accurate, and many people here agree
interesting i personally find it pretty inaccurate as is the case with all statements based on personal anecdote when you examine the material actions and political theory of your so-called tankies you can that your meme is just that
No political theorist. It’s a meme based on horseshoe theory, which is discredited by academics.
Tankies are authoritarian leftists, basically soviet union style communists.
Also, you can link to communities with whats called “bang notation”: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works - this is like the r/ on reddit.
Some instances have their own political leanings that can affect content and moderation. The “Tankies” referred to in the previous post tend to be Russia/China supportive anti-capitalist posters. Not everyone on those instances leans that way (I don’t), but some instances don’t federate with those three, especially lemmygrad and hexbears, because of it. You can also individually block instances if you personally don’t want to see their stuff. On the whole, you probably don’t need to worry about it, but if it becomes annoying you have the option.
tankie is what lemmy libs call anyone to the left of them on foreign policy, ie supporting palestine = tankie and then they just make up shit to vaguepost about.
Interesting. I see your account is from .ml. Any particular reason you created on that instance? I literally picked the first one that was recommended and I’m still checking out how all of this works :)
I’m an anarchist, I like getting both sides of geopolitics news and they federate pretty broadly. After I got banned from reddit I landed on .ml because it could see all the major communist/anarchist instances and was first in line for updates as it’s being run by the developers of lemmy.
Hexbear has an active trans community + associated matrix groups so I’ve been spending more time there specifically since they defederated last month due to domain ownership issues.
Tankies are authoritarian communists, basically places like Russia and China can do no wrong in their eyes no matter how well supported said fact is. They don’t even recognize they nor NK are dictatorships. Basically if you say anything negative about those governments on .ml it’ll get removed and you possibly banned
.ml is part of the Triad of instances that they hide out in, the others hex and grad are much more on your face about it, but .ml is more subtle about it tending to just remove non-Tankie view points via mod/admin action and a lot of the official support comms are on there as well because the main devs are also Tankies.
I actually have to use this account to talk about them now to new users now because this accounts instance defed’s from them, otherwise they’ll just brigade posts and comments about them LMAO my main is @cm0002@lemmy.world
Reddit also has tankies, but there was just so many other users they kinda disappeared into the sea lol
Yea that’s what !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works is, some of it is serious documentation work, some venting and a couple memes
Sorry to just dump this on you, but encountering a Tankie without warning is rather…jarring lmao
Thanks for all the info! This is super interesting!
Since you are so knowledgeable about China and North Korea could you explain the structure of their government?
For anyone curious here are two short articles outlining the political structure:
The Chinese people trust their government and are able to directly shape it’s policy and directly elect their representatives
China does have elections, and for genuine representation, no lobbying or canvassing is allowed.
Following the precepts of democratic elections, “In accordance with the principles of universal suffrage, equal rights, multiple candidates, and secret ballot”, deputies to people’s congresses at the township and county levels are elected by the Chinese people.
These representatives, the deputies closest to the public, make up 94% of the national total, and are entrusted with electing the higher-level representatives. The deputies to people’s congresses at the level of townships and counties elect deputies to people’s congresses of cities; they, in turn, elect deputies at the provincial level, who elect deputies at the national level.
From these grassroots onward, in China, it is meritocracy all the way. Decades of practical experience, usually with increasingly large populations, ensures progressively greater competence, as candidates get the top jobs that require such capacity.
Communist Party of China […] in 2020, when the draft of its 14th Five-Year Plan (from 2021 to 2025) was submitted to public consultation online for the first time. The general public was able to participate in planning its own social and economic development, making more than a million suggestions from August 16 to 29, 2020, from which over 1,000 opinions and suggestions were incorporated.
And there we go, one link direct from the Chinese gov, I’m sure that can be absolutely trusted
And one link from a random substack, not like anyone can start a substack and write anything in it or anything LMAO
For someone that is engaging in a logical fallacy of appealing to purity with regard to source, where is your source on the political structure of either country?
The substack has listed sources for the information cited, did you see that? They are historical studies and documentaries produced by third parties. I’m curious if you can even find a western-biased source that disputes the factual description of how China’s government is structured as described in the link.
What about the Edelman Trust Barometer?
https://www.edelman.com/about-us
Clearly the people of China trust their government and since you have yet to provide a source explaining how their government is organized we can only go with my source which clearly indicated that there is direct democracy
Sorry to just dump this on you, but encountering a Tankie without warning is rather…jarring lmao
try going outside more lmao
Welcome!
Welcome
Welcome to Lemmy, here are a few pointers to help you settle in
I also recommend !newcommunities@lemmy.world
Welcome
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Welcome!
Banned from r/BuyFomEU due to excessive promotion…
How are people supposed to behave on that sub?
“excessive promotion”, right.
You’re doing great work.
No… you are doing an amazing job. Like that’s wild and absolutely phenomenal!
Really? I was able to comment a couple of minutes ago.
I still see
Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/BuyFromEU.You can comment but I think it’s just “Hidden” idk
I suspect it wouldn’t matter if you posted it once or posted it a hundred times. Lemmy is a rival service, and plenty of people have been banned for mentioning it before.
I think you should contact the moderation team. I’d be really curious to hear what they have to say is “excessive” about you informing people of EU-based alternatives to Reddit…
If nothing else it’ll be a good laugh here on fedi.
I did contact the mod team, but they have issues eg. making false claims like this
They also have beef with r/Buy_European on reddit https://old.reddit.com/r/Buy_European/comments/1j6jeg3/the_other_buyeuropean_sub_is_apparently_now/
Seems like an odd sub to promote Lemmy in.
They were likely posting about the BuyFromEU Lemmy community.
So much talk about duplicate communities, which is just so weird to me, seeing as reddit also constantly has duplicate communities despite being centralized :D which one the main one is also sometimes changes based on events/drama
Seems to me just people being resistant to change just because it’s change.
I remember duplicate communities seemed like it would be a problem, until you experience it and realise it’s actually a feature of the fediverse.
I was just so used to the centralised mentality. I honestly have a hard time putting myself back in that headspace…
Thank you!
It doesn’t take that many people to create an active forum. It takes even fewer to make for an active sub-forum. And it’s so easy to pull in content from elsewhere here if you want to discuss it with your little group.
The push towards centralizing Lemmy has always seemed like an artifact of people not actually wanting to leave Reddit, but drawing a line in the sand anyway.
Duplicate communities are a good thing anyway.
It’s crazy that on Reddit a community can get hijacked by some fucking weirdo who has control of things basically forever.
It’s also my biggest complaint, but I avoid it by just browsing local all.
When you search for a community just pick the biggest one. Really all there is to it. Honestly reddit had the same issue with similarly named subs
My point is that I don’t search for or subscribe to communities, though. Instead I browse all and mute communities I’m not interested in. This is much harder to do on global all.
In my view this isn’t a problem that needs to be fixed, it’s just something new users have to get used to.
Yeah but that’s what I’m saying, this happens in exactly the same way on Reddit too
Just attempting to go to /r/anime for example ist still a lot easier tho.
I‘m not saying you can’t get used to it, but its obviously something thats worse. Especially if the whole federation thing is new for them.
Meh, just go to /r/anime_titties for the main global news source subreddit…
I like that the top comment went from “there are too many communities I want just one” to “Im joining to make it better for others”.
Yeah I don’t get it at all. It’s a non-issue.
Unless you have a reason to otherwise just search for the topic you want and pick the biggest. Just. Like. Reddit.
On Reddit there’s tons of very similar named communities out there it’s fine.
You can check out, but you can never leave.
I just left a comment 2 years ago or so that got me permanently banned and came here and never looked back. Can’t get my wife to switch because there’s not enough stuff here. She got an account but just went back 2 days later.
Main issue seems to be if your not a Linux nerd or into degoogling there just isnt much on here yet.
I’m neither and I’m having fun here. Lots of science, Star Trek, cute animals, shitposts, thoughtful commentaries, books and movies… And things are getting better. It’s already so much better than when I first came.
Yea there’s quite a lot here lmao, plus the more that come the more the content diversifies
lol I remember getting banned from r/news and still have no idea what it was that did it. A couple other autobans from conservative subs, too, but it was when pissboy spez killed the API access that I fucked off never to return. I was a devout Apollo user and the official app can go fuck itself with rusty barbed wire with its sewage UI and ads. I had a 12 year old account, too.
Great quote but one of the points is that Lemmy makes it easier to switch between servers haha!
I feel that the best thing about federated social like Lemmy is just that there’s no reason to engagement farm. Like I could get big on Lemmy but unless I’m able to direct that traffic somewhere else effectively, who cares?
but how will our social media platforms achieve Infinite Growth Forever without brand content??
Oh no 😯😯😯 🤣
Well done!
Welcome to our little hell pit, you new rascals! :)
I’m not European but isn’t Lemm.ee American?
Lemm.ee is European.
sunaurus (the owner) is from Estonia
And the instance is currently hosted in Finnland.Estonian, .ee is the country extension
True, although it looks like a pun so I wouldn’t assume it’s someone registering their local TLD.
- .ml is Mali, but I’m confident the .ml instances aren’t hosted in Mali.
- One can still register .su (Soviet Union TLD)
I can’t find their terms and conditions, but they do mention the GDPR plus their choice of 16+ instead of 18+ for age restriction makes me suspect it’s somewhere European.
For anyone wondering, lemm.ee is hosted in Finland, as per this post by the admin.
Huh, TIL, I had assumed .su was Finland (Suomi).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su
Looks like Finland was simply assigned .fi - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.fi
and I didn’t know about .ax for Åland - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ax
The IP address is from the US though
That’s most likely a cloudflare proxy.
nice
