Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
There is simple logic in it. Punish everyone, and then let them come to you asking for exemptions. Then he can demand things in exchange. After that it’s “Pray I don’t alter the deal any further.”
UK already asked for an exemption and he said they should buy chlorinated chicken first. If every country responds in the same way and gives in he’s making bank. If they respond with a boycott on anything American, especially digital services, things get bad.
Well if hes following Project 2025, which it seems based on recent comments by Elon Musk, then hes expecting other countries to remove all tariffs first. As you say, chlorinated chicken, but if you dont then you dont get to sell your healthy chickens to America, and all that money you owe thats denominated in USD becomes very hard to acquire.
Maybe the better option is to allow it but to label it with its harmful chemicals, let the free market decide, in a kind of democratic process of people determining their own marginal utility versus budget constraints. You can still buy cigarettes in the UK and Europe as well, so whats a bit of American chicken versus a lifetime of smoking?
Then next Trump would just threaten with tariffs again until the labeling had been removed. Then he’ll threaten again for their oversized cars. There won’t be an end to this.
Chlorinated chicken…?
Is that as mouth-watering as it sounds?
For when your food grows up in so much squalor that you need to dip them in chlorine to fake the bacterial culture tests.
Oh no.
Trump’s government has made the US a village idiot - and if the idiot gets into a fight with the whole village, the idiot will have more bruises.
Why he does that - I don’t pretend to understand.
He’s preparing for an authoritarian takeover.
Almost every dictator in history enacted massive tariffs so they had a way to control the economy. Loyal businesses are given tariff exemptions while all the other ones are suppressed. That’s what Mussolini did, that’s what Putin did and now it’s what trump does.
I’ll wonder if that “we need guns to defend ourselves against an oppressive government” statement was true.
All the guns on the world won’t do any good against a missile. Gun nuts are just waiting for an excuse to shoot their neighbors. Jokes on them because no gun can save them from getting 🗡 In their sleep or getting their food ☠️.
And the United States won in Vietnam.
He’s trying to destroy the country. Amassing as many bruises as possible is the point.
The village idiot has more guns than the whole village together. So I’m not sure he will accept the bruises.
Until nukes start flying. I pray every day for the light of a thousand suns. We deserve it.
Vlad Vexler makes the point that the point of is not at all economics but that it does have a basis in logic: it is about asserting that he can do this, that his political power is above economic rationality. It is a political move, not an economic play.
It’s also chaos.
He’s making it so nobody can even trust their own country or economy.
You just have to listen and trust him and Trump will make it right …
UK and Italy are playing Trump’s game. He doesn’t negotiate. He demands tribute and only honours agreements if they are a win for him and he feels like honouring it at the time. Canada has a Trump negotiated trade agreement - the best agreement ever, in his parlance. It is apparently not worth the paper it is written on.
Countries must negotiate trade agreements - with everyone except the USA. And citizens must support their countries by not purchasing any thing from the USA. As for the few Americans that didn’t vote for Trump, so sorry but your fellow Americans still fully support him. So it isn’t “just Trump”, it is America that is the problem. Trump is simply reflecting who the majority of Americans really are.Can we stop winning already? I’m tired of winning so much.
Trump basically ran his mouth, realized he had to drop something, whipped some crap together, took a dump in the living room and left for the golf field… exactly what MAGAtards wanted, hope you are enjoying it
Because Trump is getting demented. This is all his idea
This thumbnail looks like the shittiest ‘Soulsborne’ Boss. Ever. Like, worse than Patches. Limping; anaemic.
Rip my year-old IRA
Gold has held up well with new all time highs. You really can’t challenge the classic.
ok, then…
i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.
i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.
like the leaky diaper’s new
tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the ‘unfair’ imbalance?yea. that’ll work.
I think Trump doesn’t want to trade at all. He wants us to produce everything we need.
Just like Mussolini.
and see how well that turned out?
I am really afraid that this is what America is coming to. The problem is that we have a third of the country that supports the Mango Mussolini.
We’ll have to see if that holds true after people watch their retirements get obliterated by a drastic drop in stock values across the board. Biden didn’t do enough to show the people that the economy was doing well, and recovering better than other countries around the world, under his watch. Trump won’t be able to pin this downward economic trend on Biden cause it happened too fast and multiple sources have cited the import tax, or fear of them, at the reason for the stock market tanking.
If owning the libs is so important that tRump voters will still vote for the ones actively hurting them, then those people are truly beyond help.
One can only dream. Joking there is no Resistenza in the USA.
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Well, artificially increasing the price of all the raw naturals we use to make those things will certainly help with that goal…
I’m actually pretty down with that that. We should be able and ready to produce whatever we need in case another country does what trump is doing or something happens that would prevent trade. If China attacks Taiwan, we should be able to produce our own chips. We should be able to function with as little dependence on other countries as possible.
In no way do tariffs fix that. You invest in yourself, slapping your friends because they’re better than you at something is really fucking stupid.
Meh, I think it’s fine and good for countries to specialize and be dependent on each other. Keeps the peace through mutually assured economic destruction. Global upticks in isolationism preceded the World Wars. Also, it just makes sense, because different countries have different resources, and their populations are differently skilled.
He’s hoping the foreign companies are going to open up shop in USA to avoid the tariffs.
Which they’re not going to do as that takes time and meanwhile he keeps moving the goalposts.
Which they’re not going to do as that takes time and meanwhile he keeps moving the goalposts.
And they’ll just fill in the gaps with China, or other non USA alternatives.
the “logic” is pretty much as you described it. Only, after charging yourself with the extra tax on Walmart purchases, you obviously can’t afford Walmart any longer, so you learn to make your own soap with ash and the fats of animals that you have started breeding in your own flat.
So sad and so true. You made me giggle and frown at the same time. Have some 🥇.
Or your neighbour does all the work instead of you, so you decide to buy soap from them. They’re next door, while Walmart is across the county line, so you decide you won’t charge yourself the extra self-tax with your neighbour.
Walmart"s soap, which used to be $2, is now $3, while your neighbour’s soap is $2.50.
A week later your neighbour sees that demand for their soap is huge because everyone is self-taxing. So they raise their price to $2.95 to make extra profit.
In case you think this is just a contrived fiction, this is exactly what happened to many goods, like solar panels, with Trump’s first-term tarrifs. Americans paid over double the average world price for solar panels.
Worse still, Trump knows this happened, yet somehow this time will be completely different. <sigh>
That’s actually a pretty good and understandable explanation of what’s going on.
Sounds like you had better open a diaper factory in your house. Then you wouldn’t have to pay the tariff that you are charging yourself.
Thank you! Neither the BBC nor the Flemish public tv seem to say this yet (they just repeat the statement Trump gave)
This is the only person I have seen say this so I can only guess no one is repeating it but it appears to be correct when I checked a few countries.
Its fucking insane to think Cambodia has a 97% tariff, and he thinks they are getting rich off of it.
Just unfathomably stupid.
I hope the EU reacts with something non-tariffy. Like forbidding US online platforms to serve ads and collect personal data, with severe punishments if they still do.
I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.
Would also save the EU an enormous amount in monitoring and enforcement
You don’t even have to go that far. Just adopt sane copyright laws, like copyright only lasting the life of the artist.
Thats still too long imo. Patents are 20 years, so should every IP protection.
If it’s good enough for inventors, it’s good enough for musicians, writters and software developers.
Exactly. Especially when you figure in the longer scale up time with an invention. You can’t just flip a switch and start making money.
Yeah, but think about the grandchildren of the CEO who bought that IP from the artist‽
Do you want them to
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Your mistake is thinking that Marvel is art.
Everything done with skill is art. From Citizen Kane to the design of a candy wrapper.
Sure, but that wording becomes detrimental when you only expect high-quality things because that’s what you associate with art, forgetting that there is also entertainment that doesn’t need to be high quality necessarily.
MY wording?
You were the one claiming marvel movies weren’t.
That’s a great plan for letting those mega corps steal from the little guy EVEN more than they already do
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The entities with the established distribution networks will make the money, not the little guy who makes their own little story.
If I write a little seld published novel, under your system, Hollywood can just take that story and make a movie of it without my permission. How is that better? You think more people pirating will take down these mega corps? Your system is chaos that’s even worse than the current model.
They can do so currently by making a couple of minor changes and settling for a pittance because your lawsuit would bankrupt you.
“Chaos” is a better system than one benefitting corporations only.
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I think a lot of that kind of stuff is going to happen. I don’t think other countries are insulted, as much as they find it ridiculous, and to be ridiculed, I think they’re going to do some inventive chaos. I think we need to be building some world bingo cards, and I’ll bet we won’t guess all the (hopefully hilarious) petty revenges about to snowball.
Official EU website hosting American-made media for a nominal fee. Can’t tariff data!
Of that I am not convinced. This will work with a lot of smaller countries that don’t have much of a copyright portfolio, but not with Europe.
Yes that would be amazing and a great stimulant for EU companies to start developing a competing platform of it’s own (we have BeReal, Dailymotion, Medal and Dumpert, but they aren’t very big AFAIK)
Having Non-US platforms would be nice, yes, But leaving the US-based ones without ad revenue and a shit-ton of users would be nice, too.
Why not both?
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Nice mention of AdNauseam, here is a link:
It’s based on uBlock Origin, so still state of the art in ad-blocking.
Someone needs to create plugins not to block data being sent, but to send inordinate amounts of trash data.
Make the whole system pointless.
or something ultra specific that is super easy to source from any other country, to exclusively hurt the american businesses
or something ultra specific that is super easy to source from any other country, to exclusively hurt the american businesses
That was part of what went into how Canada chose the targets of our first rounds of counter-tariffs.
Product categories that we also make here, or can easily get elsewhere or can comfortably do without for an extended period of time.
That combined with a consumer led boycott of anything "made in the USA " and even staunch Republicans like Mitch McConnell are starting to push back against Trump.
We can only hope.
Shortly after Trump’s announcement, the British government said the United States remains the U.K.’s “closest ally.”
I’m sorry TERF island, that’s not gonna keep Trump from stabbing you in the back too.
It’s heartbreaking, really.
The UK is like a kid who just got his face covered in mud by bullies, and goes “aren’t my friends wonderful for playing with me?”.
Well see there is just the problem, TERF island needs more toxic masculinity so the men can be tough!
/s
The UK already shot themselves in the foot turning their back on the EU… they have no one left, they are done for
Heads up, UK, the US will use you as a toilet every chance you give it, and we’ve just dropped all pretense, however thin it may have previously been, about caring about our “allies”. Speaking as a US citizen, I would strongly advise against considering yourself a close friend to the US until we get our shit sorted.
If I was Prime Minister, I’d impose a retaliatory tariff of 9000% just because it’s all just this stupid.
Call it the Goku tariffs, but drag it out over an hour or two with a lot of screaming.Wouldn’t it have to be 9001%?
Spoiler
Power levels are bullshit.
Says the guy with the broken scouter
Your reply has a lot of Yamcha energy.
You’re absolutely right, I can easily hear that comment in his voice too
You’re hired
ISO PTSD trigger warning! Hide that shit the next time.
Naa, 9001% is too high. It’s impossible. Better stick with 9000%.
Call a press conference, build up to announcing the 9000% tariff but then end the conference promising to come back next week and make the announcement.
PEOPLE OF THE UK!
I NEED YOUR ENERGY TO CHARGE THESE TARIFFS! AHHHHHHH \o/
- Order tariffs
- Make everything more expensive for everyone everywhere
- Piss off the entire world and invite countermeasures
- ???
- MAGA
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That whole story assumes the population of the USA will continue to have the capacity to buy stuff… this assumption is ever less likely as the USA is heading into the worst recession they have ever experienced
You have to remember the people doing this are fucking idiots who have convinced themselves they’re smarter than everyone else.
Exactly… Yesterday Trump’s “liberation day” clearly proved this
I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.
Depression.
It’s a depression.
