It wasn’t until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.
The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.
I know I’ll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.
SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.
PS: That is not to say that those police departments don’t have their issues. They have many. But I don’t think they are as complicit with Trump’s gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.
If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in.
So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?
You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.
The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.
Don’t even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.
You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government.
If they already have the local police doing their dirty work, haven’t they already effectively done that?
Listen, I get it that the Austin PD, as the example here, are doing their best. I get it that they aren’t their own ultimate masters. All those points are made. I’m also GLAD that the APD are doing what they can within their rules to warn residents that these actions are happening. Yes thats good.
However, thats approach of harm reduction, not harm avoidance. The good folks of the APD are being used as tools to carry out the harm though. They may not want to, but they are. Is anyone claiming different? The state doesn’t need to take over the APD to get the harm the state wants done. The question, and its a rhetorical one, is “where is the line?”. At what point is it better to say “no, I won’t do that” and be replaced by the state? I fear that day will come, but it needs to be examined now, before the state asks for something worse.
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
Yes
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
No. In fact, cities like Houston and Austin try to not volunteer information that they are not required to by law. If you read the article you’ll see that the lady that called the police has an active deportation warrant, which is why the police officer was obligated to notify ICE and also why the police officer told her to not show up.
Nah, only snitch cops are good cops, and the responding officer just quietly filed the notification to ICE. He could have said right then “FYI, I had to notify ICE because they have an active warrant out for you” or if he was an especially good cop “forget” to, but he just quietly followed orders and reported the victim to the gestapo.
The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.
I know I’ll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.
SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.
PS: That is not to say that those police departments don’t have their issues. They have many. But I don’t think they are as complicit with Trump’s gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.
So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?
You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.
The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.
Don’t even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.
If they already have the local police doing their dirty work, haven’t they already effectively done that?
Dude… He’s explaining to you the shitty and hard situation there and you’re just being obtuse
Listen, I get it that the Austin PD, as the example here, are doing their best. I get it that they aren’t their own ultimate masters. All those points are made. I’m also GLAD that the APD are doing what they can within their rules to warn residents that these actions are happening. Yes thats good.
However, thats approach of harm reduction, not harm avoidance. The good folks of the APD are being used as tools to carry out the harm though. They may not want to, but they are. Is anyone claiming different? The state doesn’t need to take over the APD to get the harm the state wants done. The question, and its a rhetorical one, is “where is the line?”. At what point is it better to say “no, I won’t do that” and be replaced by the state? I fear that day will come, but it needs to be examined now, before the state asks for something worse.
Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?
But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?
Yes
No. In fact, cities like Houston and Austin try to not volunteer information that they are not required to by law. If you read the article you’ll see that the lady that called the police has an active deportation warrant, which is why the police officer was obligated to notify ICE and also why the police officer told her to not show up.
Nah, only snitch cops are good cops, and the responding officer just quietly filed the notification to ICE. He could have said right then “FYI, I had to notify ICE because they have an active warrant out for you” or if he was an especially good cop “forget” to, but he just quietly followed orders and reported the victim to the gestapo.