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  • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    The end result is that some sites have a lot of white nationalists and some sites have very little white nationalists.

    Conservatives have nothing humane to bring to the table at this point, even if not proudly saddled with your average ethonostate enjoyers, the platform is nothing but a fight against progress during a time where crisis requires it.

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      1 year ago

      I always find it funny (albeit in a depressing way) when people on the left act like anything short of totally open borders is white supremacy.

      Wanna talk about ethnostates? Check out the demographics and immigration policies for countries like Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Iceland. Wanna talk about racism? Ask the average naturalized immigrant how they feel about illegal immigration.

      Supporting more secured borders isn’t racist. The reality is that the American government should prioritize the interests of its own citizens before prioritizing the interests of people from other countries. It drives me up the walls to see how much support our government provides to refugees when meanwhile our own cities are struggling, most often in predominately black areas. Yes it’s a slight false dichotomy to act like we can’t support refugees while also improving our inner cities, but the reality is that we usually fail to do both as they’re often competing interests.

      Is it really “supporting a white ethnostate” to say I’d rather have our country let in more immigrants with college degrees or at least a willingness to work over a bunch of people who have zero desire to integrate or even work.

      “Progress” doesn’t mean trying to increase the population of our cities and diversity as much as possible even if it means bringing in millions of people who will rely on the government to survive, refuse to integrate into American society, and are the literal opposite of progressive. “Progress” means working to improve the lives of the people we have already living here, regardless of their ethnic background. And currently our immigration policy isn’t accomplishing that.

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        How many democrats with meaningful power are actually proponents of an “open border”?

        The main times I see the term “open borders” is a bunch of republican sites making strawman arguments. Fact is the border isn’t open and nobody serious really wants it open, but if it’s implied enough then people believe it. The #2 hit on google is an official republican senate website attacking this “open border” policy.

        https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/democrats-declare-mission-accomplished-on-the-open-border

        Why this fixation on highlighting immigration in a facetious way to misrepresent the situation? Even the tone-deaf can hear that faint whistle.

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      1 year ago

      Which site has the least strawmen?

      I know I shouldn’t go into comment sections of these kind of posts, but man is this depressing.

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        I know I shouldn’t go into comment sections of these kind of posts, but man is this depressing.

        It really is. So many vapid little monsters. You get to witness the ignorance and hatred spewed from people who think they’re moral beacons for the rest of us. It would be funny if it wasn’t so depressing, like you said.