• Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
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    theres a generation of kids who don’t understand basic directories because of the mobile market and never actually used a pc in a regular usecase.

    put in perspective, there are those who are more proficient on a touchscreen keyboard more than an actual keyboard.

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      I’ve also found (I’m a teacher) this generation is far less proficient at search. They (generalisation) type a whole question into Google, and read the Google created text box to get their answer, taking it as gospel - regardless of if Google has completely gone off the mark.

      Contrast this to a generation that grew up with needing to refine search terms with key words, who can find far more relevant info quicker.

      It’s hard to get them out of the rut and teach them to be more critical of sources. They’re so used to having what they need served straight up for them. LLMs (AI) are feeding into this more - they struggle to believe that AI hallucinations exist until I show them.

      Again all this is generalisation - when I say ‘they’ I don’t mean ‘all’.

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        Couple of years back I used to help this kid with computer related stuff, and it really baffled me how he was nearly computer illiterate. He had no idea what make his laptop was, no idea what OS he was on, or any of the specs.

        He called it a gaming laptop because he played games on it, but it was a pretty decent school/work thing without a dedicated GPU.

        I’d always envisioned the younger generations getting better and better with tech, but it makes sense that won’t be the case as tech moves to be easier to use, more reliable, and less intrusive.

        Modern iPads are nothing like the BS DOS/98 I grew up with.

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          Similar thing happened with cars. My grandpa would take them apart and reassemble them. my dad (somewhat generalizing to generations a bit) were really into cars and engines and would do some basic diy. I know nothing about them and don’t care to learn much.

          I think computers are doing a similar thing. Millennials sit in the middle of the adoption and saw it emerge from more of a technology wild Wild West to being central to modern society. We could take the time to delve into details (since they mattered), but now it’s more taken for granted and things are there.

          I guess, I’m just thinking it’s some sort of technology adoption thing that naturally plays out in a “victim if it’s own success” way.

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            I would guess that’s it’s a combination of what you mentioned and also the generation rasing it not bothering to actually teach them properly about that sort of stuff. I never learned about car stuff, never had anyone to teach me. Now as an adult I know enough to do the basic oil change stuff but nothing more.

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              Oh, that’s definitely happening when the five-years-away promise of fully self-driving vehicles as promised a decade ago make their appearance in 2050.

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            I think the situation is also somewhat different with cars. Old cars used to be much simpler to take apart and tinker with than modern cars. Computers and operating systems are still just as easy to pry apart (since the fundamentals haven’t changed since the 90s lol).

            My theory is that as tech came to a wider appeal and became more user-friendly, more people are using it who don’t run into issues that need technical knowledge. Early OSes needed highly technical knowledge to use. Modern OSes can be operated by a monkey. Therefore, their inclination to learn about the computer is less because it just fades into the background.

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        Unfortunately this generation google is getting less proficient at search as well. It’s like it treats the search term as a vague idea and any syntax as a non binding suggestion.

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          And many sites use seo to attract traffic but dont have any content you are actually looking for. And ads.

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          Let it create a simple quizgame with easy question amd tell it to create some backround info on the correct answers.

          It will claim the wrong answer correct and tell you the opposite in the backround info quickly

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      i can actually type slightly faster on a touchscreen keyboard, despite spending most of my time on my pc.
      typing special characters is painfully slow on touch keyboards tho

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    This has actually been studied. Turns out, zoomers are so reliant on smart technology like tablets and phones, they never actually learned anything about normal PC file systems or extensions. They literally don’t understand what a folder is because they’ve never been exposed to PC or Mac environments.

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      And there are lots who don’t understand what the shift key is for. They use capslock to shift…

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          There was a tech reviewer that scorched Chromebooks for taking away the CapLocks because… he couldn’t type capitals anymore!

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            I’m reminded of that infamous game reviewer that couldn’t figure out how to jump over a box on the first level of a tutorial. And then gave the game a bad review

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      I’ve seen people comment about needing to teach folder and file hierarchies to young people in CS classes because they grew up with cloud services and auto-save. Dunno how widespread that might be.

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    I call bullshit on this post. Since Windows 10 you can just double click a zip file and it opens up like any other directory (even if it isn’t) and shows you the files.

    If this zoomer wanted to open it they’d obviously double click.

    So calm down boomers, this is fiction.

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    It’s Chromebooks, phones, and tablets that you don’t ever have exposure to actual files. Chromebooks especially now that they’re so common in schools because they’re cheap.

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      I so wish Linux phones were actually a usable thing so that we could have functional pocket computers.
      The attempts made so far weren’t very convincing.

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      Millenials are just passing on the abuse they got from the boomers for enjoying avocado toast 10 years ago.

      At least making fun of someone’s tech skills is rather harmless compared to questioning the basic desire to eat something other than ramen every now and then.