I feel like I’m from an alien planet. I’ve been using nVidia cards exclusively since around 2014 and while I’ve certainly not had a perfect track record, 90% of the time, I’ve been pretty plug-and-play. Maybe I’ve been lucky or maybe it’s because I stick to the popular distros.
In either case, from the perspective of openness, I do agree with the community that drivers shouldn’t be shrouded in mystery.
You just don’t notice what doesn’t work, like video decoding in your browser. You probably didn’t use a laptop with hybrid graphics. And you might not use GNOME, which has defaulted to wayland which was broken for many years. And you might use an outdated kernel so it never broke. And you don’t use software that used modern linux features like dmabuf.
Its fair to not have this situation but its an easy one to happen.
Welp. My gnome defaults to X11, and I am using laptop. That said, it does not use hybrid graphics, but honestly only using dedicated card works well enough.
That said, fk nvidia. Their greed is overwhelming…
Not broken on Wayland just gnome. X11 has its issues but on pretty much every other Wayland desktop gsync works fine. Gsync also works under x11 if all your monitors support the same refresh rate and gsync/freesync.
Having different refresh rates on different screens never worked on x11 weather you were using AMD or nvidia it just defaults to the lowest refresh rate.
I wish that were the case. It’s obviously not a thing at all in Gnome (yet), but from my experience and what others are reporting, VRR is also pretty broken on KDE Wayland for NVIDIA GPUs. It works fine 90% of the time, but at certain loads it starts rendering frames out of order. As far as I can gather this won’t change until there’s proper esync support across the whole render chain for NVIDIA, starting with the drivers.
I hate to say it but Hyperland and potentially other wlroots have excellent support for vrr. I’d like to see if gnome does a better job than kde. I think they were one of the first ones to work with Nvidia when it came to gnome.
I don’t know why but the latest version of kde has horrible screen tearing and for right now I’m blaming it on my gsync only monitor.
Huh, when I first checked out Hyprland under 535 drivers, it was barely working under Wayland, whereas Gnome and KDE worked at least decently well. Might have to check it out again now that some time has passed, although I still hope that the next beta driver will finally fix most things.
I have 1060, I bought it when it came out. Three years after that I completeny switched to Linux. There were some problems with it on rolling distributions. And I still cant figure out hardware acceleration in Firefox. It either doesn’t work or it is baraly noticable from software acceleration. I still have a lot of skipped frames.
Try Nvidia vaapi driver! On arch you gotta make sure you setup hardware acceleration no matter what hardware your rocking.
I think Firefox defaults to Wayland now but you can check by going to about:support in Firefox and seeing if it’s running in Wayland or XWayland. Hardware video acceleration isn’t supported in XWayland as far as I can tell. I don’t know about chrome you’ll just half to look that up your self.
My thinking exactly. That’s your card not working one day out of every 10. Imagine having issues once a week. I’d burn that card with termite and never look back.
With a 1080ti, i’ve had my fair share of issues, but compared to how it used to be, it’s a night and day difference. If you’re still an X11 purist, everything works perfectly, and on Wayland, everything works even better than that, assuming you can launch your software in native Wayland mode
Exclusively nvidia card (or at least nvidia based card) since I got my GeForce 256 in 2001 after ditching my Voodoo2. No major issues beyond the ones I’ve caused myself.
I have a 3080 and this is only my second nvidia card gaming on PC for about 14 years and currently I cannot get any games to run in Linux on my system, I’ve given up. PopOS doesn’t launch steam platinum Linux games, gog won’t either. Tried nobara and when it doesn’t launch into black screen the game gets 14fps when its in the hundreds on windows.
I would keep trying if you can. I had no luck with the first four distros I tried, but eventually manjaro was apparently the magic dust I needed to sprinkle.
I’ve been running almost exclusively nVidia lately on OpenSuSE and Tumbleweed and for the most part it just works as advertised. And that’s been for maybe 15 years, if not more.
The very few problems I’ve had were mostly because I poked at the system to install experimental stuff.
From what I’ve seen, the only potentially troublesome area was switching between an external and integrated gpu on laptops. I never had to do so so I can’t really comment.
Same here, at least so I thought until I started distro-hopping out of curiosity. And I learned that there are a ton of Nvidia specific problems on a lot of different distributions. I guess I just got lucky with my main setup that I’ve been using since around the same time.
I feel like I’m from an alien planet. I’ve been using nVidia cards exclusively since around 2014 and while I’ve certainly not had a perfect track record, 90% of the time, I’ve been pretty plug-and-play. Maybe I’ve been lucky or maybe it’s because I stick to the popular distros.
In either case, from the perspective of openness, I do agree with the community that drivers shouldn’t be shrouded in mystery.
You just don’t notice what doesn’t work, like video decoding in your browser. You probably didn’t use a laptop with hybrid graphics. And you might not use GNOME, which has defaulted to wayland which was broken for many years. And you might use an outdated kernel so it never broke. And you don’t use software that used modern linux features like dmabuf.
Its fair to not have this situation but its an easy one to happen.
Welp. My gnome defaults to X11, and I am using laptop. That said, it does not use hybrid graphics, but honestly only using dedicated card works well enough. That said, fk nvidia. Their greed is overwhelming…
Yes it did fallback to x11 but it was truly a fallback, no developer used x11, features were ignored there, and it was just a worse experience.
Or you might want to use G-Sync or other forms of VRR on a multimonitor setup, which you can’t do under X11 and is broken on Wayland.
Not broken on Wayland just gnome. X11 has its issues but on pretty much every other Wayland desktop gsync works fine. Gsync also works under x11 if all your monitors support the same refresh rate and gsync/freesync.
Having different refresh rates on different screens never worked on x11 weather you were using AMD or nvidia it just defaults to the lowest refresh rate.
It also just landed in gnome.
Yeah, I’m glad people in gnome are finally getting it. My mother has gnome on her PC and if she ever plays something modern she’ll probably enjoy it.
I wish that were the case. It’s obviously not a thing at all in Gnome (yet), but from my experience and what others are reporting, VRR is also pretty broken on KDE Wayland for NVIDIA GPUs. It works fine 90% of the time, but at certain loads it starts rendering frames out of order. As far as I can gather this won’t change until there’s proper esync support across the whole render chain for NVIDIA, starting with the drivers.
I hate to say it but Hyperland and potentially other wlroots have excellent support for vrr. I’d like to see if gnome does a better job than kde. I think they were one of the first ones to work with Nvidia when it came to gnome.
I don’t know why but the latest version of kde has horrible screen tearing and for right now I’m blaming it on my gsync only monitor.
Huh, when I first checked out Hyprland under 535 drivers, it was barely working under Wayland, whereas Gnome and KDE worked at least decently well. Might have to check it out again now that some time has passed, although I still hope that the next beta driver will finally fix most things.
I have 1060, I bought it when it came out. Three years after that I completeny switched to Linux. There were some problems with it on rolling distributions. And I still cant figure out hardware acceleration in Firefox. It either doesn’t work or it is baraly noticable from software acceleration. I still have a lot of skipped frames.
Try Nvidia vaapi driver! On arch you gotta make sure you setup hardware acceleration no matter what hardware your rocking.
I think Firefox defaults to Wayland now but you can check by going to about:support in Firefox and seeing if it’s running in Wayland or XWayland. Hardware video acceleration isn’t supported in XWayland as far as I can tell. I don’t know about chrome you’ll just half to look that up your self.
If it only works 90% of the time that’s not so good really.
My thinking exactly. That’s your card not working one day out of every 10. Imagine having issues once a week. I’d burn that card with termite and never look back.
With a 1080ti, i’ve had my fair share of issues, but compared to how it used to be, it’s a night and day difference. If you’re still an X11 purist, everything works perfectly, and on Wayland, everything works even better than that, assuming you can launch your software in native Wayland mode
Exclusively nvidia card (or at least nvidia based card) since I got my GeForce 256 in 2001 after ditching my Voodoo2. No major issues beyond the ones I’ve caused myself.
Keep your eyes peeled for NVK
I have a 3080 and this is only my second nvidia card gaming on PC for about 14 years and currently I cannot get any games to run in Linux on my system, I’ve given up. PopOS doesn’t launch steam platinum Linux games, gog won’t either. Tried nobara and when it doesn’t launch into black screen the game gets 14fps when its in the hundreds on windows.
I would keep trying if you can. I had no luck with the first four distros I tried, but eventually manjaro was apparently the magic dust I needed to sprinkle.
I’ve been running almost exclusively nVidia lately on OpenSuSE and Tumbleweed and for the most part it just works as advertised. And that’s been for maybe 15 years, if not more.
The very few problems I’ve had were mostly because I poked at the system to install experimental stuff.
From what I’ve seen, the only potentially troublesome area was switching between an external and integrated gpu on laptops. I never had to do so so I can’t really comment.
Same here, at least so I thought until I started distro-hopping out of curiosity. And I learned that there are a ton of Nvidia specific problems on a lot of different distributions. I guess I just got lucky with my main setup that I’ve been using since around the same time.
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