• ganksy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    There. Right there. That’s your campaign rally call.

    “Contraception is next.”

    It sucks but fear will get everyone to the polls better than anything else. Please stop nursery rhymes and name calling bs.

  • someguy3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    100%. If they think life starts at conception then the pill, IUDs, and plan B are out. Then we’ll see the mental gymnastics over condoms.

      • someguy3@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        The religious right thinks premarital sex is a sin. And they are all about imposing their views on others.

        • rayyy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          The religious right thinks YOUR premarital sex is a sin. They are totally fine with THEIR premarital/adulterous/rape sex.

      • Melkath@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        A common misconception is that conservative/religious men in the lower ecclons aren’t similarly oppressed.

        The truth is that sweeping populations of men are controlled by the higher ups in those groups.

        It’s the leaders controlling “the rabble”, not all the men controlling all the women.

    • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Can you explain how the pill and IUD are out?

      The combined oral contraceptive pill suppresses ovulation, there’s nothing to conceive with.

      Copper IUDs denature the head of the sperm, meaning they are no longer able to fertilise an egg.

      In both instances, there’s either a no egg, or no viable sperm. It’s no different to having sex while infertile (is that a crime too? Because if it is I’d like to see them try and stop me)

      I can see how the pill could end up on the chopping block, as it’s secondary method of action is to prevent the uterine lining thickening enough to support implantation of a fertilised egg, but copper IUDs prevent contraception, so life never begins, and thus nothing is “murdered”

      • HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        Oh the answer is quite simple they will be “out” because they enable godless whores to have sex outside of marriage without consequences. And by consequences we mean forced conception and birth and with any luck the mutilation and/or death of the woman if anything goes wrong.

        As Jesus intended. Next question.

        • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Ah thank you, I was using too much logic and failed to remember that misogynistic laws aren’t made from a position of reason.

  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    From the party that brought us the hit “don’t take our guns”, comes their next single, “we’re coming for your condoms.”

  • Melkath@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    To be fair, I am humbled because while I know IVF has been banned in a misguided attempt to ban abortions, I am team stop breeding, so I have enjoyed that self inflicted gunshot wound on the right.

    Makes me see how I’m opposite aligned on the topic, not just disagreeing with their point.

      • Melkath@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        I mean… I agree.

        A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

        The laws are quite frankly assanine.

        Condoms, birth control, and safe abortions for all.

        I pause a bit at girls popping morning after pills like tic tacs. I don’t think they are meant for that. I think the aforementioned would serve those ladies better, but I won’t stand in their way.

        As a dude, I have a little but not a lot of say in all that.

        What I sure as shit know is that no man has the right to force a woman to incubate a child, and the way I word that highlights how I think the world is fucked, it’s overpopulated, our education and social services are quite frankly shit, and we don’t need children being brought into this dumpster fire.

        I hope for a day where that isn’t such a horrible idea, but that day isn’t today.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

          I agree with your point but I hate the way you phrased it. The things you mentioned aren’t people, but sperm, eggs, and embryos all belong to a specific species, so if a human sperm, human egg, and human embryo aren’t human, I don’t know what you’d call them to distinguish them from their counterparts from other species.

          • Melkath@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            8 months ago

            “Isn’t a life”?

            But we aren’t talking about cat IVF, so the distinction isn’t needed.

            • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              A human embryo is human regardless of whether we’re talking about other species or not. So is a human corpse. I’ve also seen people say an embryo, egg, etc. isn’t alive, which is patently false; they can die, so they’re alive. Nonhuman beings can’t be people, and nonliving things can’t be people, but being human and being alive aren’t the traits that matter, except as they relate to being a person.

              That’s why I’m suggesting “not a person” is the right language to use, because we’re talking about the concept of personhood, which is what we use to distinguish entities with rights from those without.

                • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  7 months ago

                  I’m not sure why you felt the need to tell me your command of English is poor, but you do you.