Sen. Lisa Murkowski, aghast at Donald Trump’s candidacy and the direction of her party, won’t rule out bolting from the GOP.
The veteran Alaska Republican, one of seven Republicans who voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial amid the aftermath of January 6, 2021, is done with the former president and said she “absolutely” would not vote for him.
“I wish that as Republicans, we had … a nominee that I could get behind,” Murkowski told CNN. “I certainly can’t get behind Donald Trump.”
The party’s shift toward Trump has caused Murkowski to consider her future within the GOP. In the interview, she would not say if she would remain a Republican.
Asked if she would become an independent, Murkowski said: “Oh, I think I’m very independent minded.” And she added: “I just regret that our party is seemingly becoming a party of Donald Trump.”
Murkowski who voted for almost every bullshit corrupt nominee and tax break the trump administration coughed up? That Murkowski?
Yes she had the occasional “reservation”. Like Collins she just did the evil 72% of the time anyway.
72% sounds exceptional to me. Most of the legislation that the House and Senate deal with is uncontroversial and unless you read the daily Congressional Record would never hear about because it concerns only a handful of people or it’s something we all agree on. Shit like nominations for the deputy undersecretary to the diplomat plenopotentiary to Mauritania or whatever. I’m sure a lot more of it is being unnecessarily politicized in order to sabotage the country but still. Even Bernie and Ted Cruz I would expect to be more than 72%. Got me curious.
hey y’all, no joke… I’m totally gonna maybe probably be pretty dang upset this time you guys… Seriously, don’t be surprised if I might possible potentially consider not fully supporting the worst shit again - okay, so I did support it again, but you got to admit, I got pretty close to not doping that for a second maybe (I didn’t, but you can totally imagine what it would be like if I did right?)
So guys, there’s this sinking ship, see, and she’s on it and afraid she’ll drown - so when faced with irrelevance she finally finds an excuse to get onto another ship.
The important thing to remember is that she’s still the same piece of shit she’s always been… so don’t let her on our ship. Just let her fall into irrelevance.
“If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed … and we will deserve it”
-Senator Lindsey Graham
They’ve all deserved it for a long time and for a lot of things. I’m pretty sure nobody in an elected position in DC today was there in 1964 when Goldwater’s clique inside the GOP turned it anti-civil rights and pro-Southern Strategy, but every elected Republican in DC today knew that had happened and signed up anyway
The Republican party is the disease that needs curing*, everything they’ve done are just worsening symptoms of that disease
*For the record, I think violence would be an ineffective and self-defeating course of treatment
This mf spittin.
I wasn’t even old enough to vote but was stumping for a candidate many years ago, a Democrat, and an older voter rebuffed me while walking into the polling place, fine, but then he said “you know that’s the party of socialists and communists right?” And I’m like “yeah the other party is that of the KKK.”
Not all Republicans are Klan but all Klan are Republicans. And I keep waiting for the day the GOP will kick these fools to the curb but every year they go further to the right. Fine, maybe you’re too young to remember Goldwater. Remember Willie Horton? Remember Sarah Palin?
They keep on showing everyone there is no floor. That’s why David Frum warns that before Republicans reject conservatism, they will reject democracy.
And here we are.
Important thing to note here is that he just meant they would be “destroyed” in the election - as long as Trump means they stay in power, he has no problem with him.
She just now noticed all the Nazis at her favorite bar?
She’d do it too. And she would still be re-elected.
Republicans never have any idea what they vote on, as long as it has an ® next to it.
One time Murkowski was not on the ballot and needed to be written in, and spelled correctly. She still won.
We need to stop being afraid of electing third or independent party candidates because the other side might win.
We will keep losing in the end no matter what if we don’t fight for a new political system. Most people agree this isn’t working.
Can we stop urging people to vote for a D/R and focus on independent?
I’ve voted third party most of my life. I will not while Trump and his flunkies run. And I will not urge anyone else to vote third party as I often had prior to 2016.
There has to be an American democracy in order for any voting to matter. Once fascism and autocracy is defeated vote for whomever you fucking want, but not today.
I feel what you’re saying.
This is weird, but I miss Bush and the Az senator who reminded me of a wax museum statue. He was a war vet, but also ancient. At least their faults in my mind were lesser then the blatant issues now. I never thought the US was seriously at risk, just another shitty couple years. I used to think that about all of them.
Now I’m worried…
You’re thinking of John McCain. I disagreed with most of his principles, but respect the fact that he generally stuck to them. Our perspectives and politics were very different, but he seemed to have good character
I wasn’t worried about him over throwing the constitution, that’s for sure. Maybe having health issues…
Edit, not sure why someone feels the need to down vote your answer, it wasn’t an inflammatory comment 🤷
An important first step to supporting 3rd parties would be a full switch to ranked choice.
So long as the spoiler effect is at play, you literally only have two choices… voting 3rd or not voting at all are both still choosing one of the big two, you’re just sacrificing what voice you have and letting other voters choose for you.
Here and now, suck it up and choose the lesser evil. We can work on restructuring our political system later - it needs it, but we’ve got bigger fish to fry.
I don’t disagree, but in my lifetime, we’ve been in much better shape in the past and still been unwilling to break away from the status quo.
Now that the situation is much more dire, it’s even more frustrating that we lacked the will or desires that could potentially have lessened the chances of this outcome.
I try convincing the less diehard devotees to switch and they’re still hung up on the aspects of the other party they disagree with.
You know when you’re sick and pretty much bed-ridden, and you think “if only I wasn’t sick, I would be working out today and doing such-and-such,” but then as soon as you feel okay again you don’t actually do it or think about it until you physically can’t again?
I feel like it’s like that. That doesn’t mean you should work out while you’re sick. It just means that we need to remember when we’re well.
(To be clear, what I’m saying is I get it and you’re right, but regardless we can’t reasonably do it right now. But once we put fascism down, or if it wanes enough to make a reasonable go of it, we absolutely should remember and fix the voting system).
The Republicans explicitly want me dead. What is my incentive to not vote against them as hard as I can?
Why do you say that?
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/southern-states-pushing-forward-with
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/retaliation-texas-ag-paxton-demands
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/republicans-issue-new-government
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/west-virginia-bill-would-mandate
https://newrepublic.com/article/178576/republicans-reveal-end-game-fight-trans-kids
And, in advance of your reply, please don’t bother telling me the yellow liquid that smells like piss running down my leg is rain. Conversion therapy kills. Getting proper treatment saved my life, and they explicitly want to take that away from me. Address this rather than trying to explain it away, or just don’t waste both of our time. I’m sure you have more productive things to do than deny what I can plainly see.
I’m not up to date on all the impeach things around Trump. They have been at it for months/years? Has he been convicted for anything (up til now?)
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What’s the difference between sealioning and trolling. Honest question. Or is it just new lingo?
I had to google it… “You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened”. I litterally said that I was uninformed/not paying too much attention. I have payed attention in 2016- about 2020. So was wondering if they actualy got him for something now, or not. Sorry for asking… Jeez. Trump sure triggers alot of people…
Wow, people sure don’t like the simple questions. Lol
Are they “throwing shit at the wall, and seing what sticks”? Sure looks that way…
Nonchalantly replying to their own comments is the behavior of the goodest of faith commenters /s
Haha, well said!
I mean no one has been working on impeaching trump since 2021. So I’m not sure what you’re even referring to here.
Russia, “walls are closing in” since 2016?
Trump and his various organizations have been engaging in brazen criminal activity since at least 2016, is that what you mean?
He’s a slippery bastard so he has gotten away with it until now, yes.
Yes, I keep getting told this, years ago. So i stopped paying attention to Trump-stuff, that’s why i’m asking…
OK I was just confused by you bringing up impeachment which hasn’t been a thing since he was last in office 3 years ago.
If you are genuinely curious, several criminal indictments have been put forth against him by several states and federal prosecutors but there are no verdicts as of yet. My assessment is that he is guilty but because of his wealth and power there is a high chance of acquittal or a hung jury or something along those lines. It’s also very possible that he will be elected president before the cases conclude which may present a constitutional crisis.
Courts have also found that he probably sexually assaulted Jean Carroll and that his business activities were fraudulent but these were civil and not criminal cases.
Also, a number of his underlings have been convicted of various crimes while doing his bidding, but as of yet he has not been convicted of anything. So there’s a lot of underhanded stuff going on but no direct convictions of Trump yet. Kind of like the shady mob boss who everyone knows is behind it all but it’s hard to prove. You can look up his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen’s under-oath testimony about how he uses the same tactics as other organized crime leaders to leave just enough doubt to avoid criminal charges.
Thank you for your thoughtful and good answer. This is exactly what I was joping for. A straightforward unbiased answer.
If I may, I think of Trump like a bumbling fool, snake-oil salesman, con-artist and kind of a dumb-ass. So how can he have done so many things and not have any mess-ups, so big, they create rock solid evidence against him? You only need one serious crime with good evidence for conviction, right? They are talking about 80-90 inditemints (or counts?) Why not just focus on the thing they have evidence for? So they don’t dilute the case, make it straight forward, with evidence and make it stick?
I will repeat my unpopular opinion, but it seems like they are thowing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks…
You, uh, forgot to change accounts there, buddy.
Why? I’m trying to add context/add a comment. Who should I properly reply this comment to then? I’m genuinly wondering…
