• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I don’t understand this chain of logic why we need to keep Biden:

    1. Biden isn’t the best candidate.

    2. Only Biden can drop (false)

    3. Biden will never make the adult decision to retire.

    4. We have to plow forward with Biden because he’ll never change his mind on anything.

    Like, the argument for why Biden has to stay, is just reasons he shouldn’t stay…

    And it’s not just up to him. It’s up to the DNC.

    We are not stuck with Biden.

    Biden and the DNC just know that’s the only way people will vote for him, so they’ve been reporting it for like 5 years now.

    • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      4 months ago

      Only Biden can drop

      This is a true statement. Biden won the primary. The delegates are pledged to him. Biden is the one who has to decide if he drops out.

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        4 months ago

        Mostly true. The DNC is the organization that makes the rules and can change them at any time. That would be a pretty bad move though unless the party really felt united in needing to do a hostile expulsion. Realistically Biden needs to be on board for a change to work, so being able to play Calvinball with primary voting rules isn’t really an out.

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          4 months ago

          Yes, as I understand it they would have to change the rules to expel him. People seem to be assuming that there is already a mechanism to expel him without doing that.

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      4 months ago

      Ah yes, the DNC, known for making good decisions for our democracy. How they trusted Hillary on us leading to the election of Trump.

      We just need ranked choice voting at a national scale. Until that happens we’re going to keep dealing with this bullshit. A lot of Republicans don’t want to elect a fascist anymore than a lot of democrats don’t want to elect a geriatric. But just like democrats a lot of those Republicans think they have no choice. These could all have been avoided with a different voting system and the more moderate members of each party could have voted together.

      I agree with you, but the system is just fucking broken.

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        4 months ago

        Until that happens we’re going to keep dealing with this bullshit.

        Bruh…

        The current DNC is not going to support RCV. Some state parties might, but the DNC is run by moderates who know most of their votes are because literally the only other option is a Republican.

        To get rcv, we need to get a progressive president who will actually try to fix the DNC.

        Obama wasn’t perfect, and he made a lot of mistakes.

        But the one that keeps fucking us over is instead of fixing the DNC when he had a shot, he just ignored them because they just ignored him in 08.

        If Obama had tried to fix the DNC, Bernie would have won in 2016, would be exiting his second term, and likely handing the torch to president AOC.

        trump would still be known as a shitty reality TV host, and we’d all be better off.

        At this point tho, the DNC may be beyond saving.