TLDR: there are no qualifying limitations on presidential immunity

Not only does any US president now have complete immunity from “official” actions(with zero qualifying restrictions or definitions), but if those actions are deemed “unofiicial”, no jury is legally allowed to witness the evidence in any way since that would interfere with the now infinitely broad “official” presidential prerogatives.

Furthermore, if an unofficial atrocity is decided on during an official act, like the president during the daily presidential briefing ordering the army to execute the US transexual population, the subsequent ordered executions will be considered legally official presidential acts since the recorded decision occurred during a presidential duty.

There are probably other horrors I haven’t considered yet.

Then again, absolute immunity is absolute immunity, so I don’t know how much threat recognition matters here.

If the US president can order an action, that action can be legally and officially carried out.

Not constitutionally, since the Constitution specifically holds any elected politician subject to the law, but legally and officially according to the supreme court, who has assumed higher power then the US Constitution to unconstitutionally allege that the US President is absolutely immune from all legal restrictions and consequences.

  • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The bigger picture is always missing in these posts.

    And that is that everything that’s happening has already happened in Russia. It’s how Putin got power - through the courts.

    All a Republican president has to do now is make an official act that they are president for life, the supreme court agrees, and that’s that.

    The second is that while only the president has immunity (meaning anyone killing people under their official order would still be illegal), the president can also pardon people. So it’s a loophole - anyone can kill under their official order, and then the president can just pardon them.

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      5 months ago

      Two salient points:

      This has not already happened in Russia.

      In Russia, Vladimir Putin does not legally have absolute immunity.

      China would have been a better example, since the Communist party is above the law and xi did abolish term limits for himself.

      In the US, a president could not pardon themselves for state crimes, and the president murdering someone would have been a prosecutable state crime until this decision.

      Not so anymore.