Well, I guess, but… you could argue that Zionists are mostly seen to be purely Jewish due to the nature of the movement.

OK yeah I’ll admit cleaning up after shitheads does cost, and probably a fair amount because of how famous those places are. (So it’s very much non-locals most of the time, I’d wager.)

I meant “profit” in the sense of that profit being the taxation. As in, people walking around the park don’t actually cost anything to anyone, so it is profit when you charge people to walk around, but the people wouldn’t be able to come there in the first place were there not the infrastructure which is upheld by said profit.

Oh. I think for us the first three would be hiking and the last four would just be walking.

But yeah, there’s definitely a difference of terminology, seeing as there’s two completely different languages. But I do take your point.

I don’t know about any trails that have bike paths leading up to them though. I mean, unless you count a road as a bike path. It’s just very much more organic here, you’ve made it into a whole thing that can be used for profit, it seems like. The infrastructure to ours, like duckboards and whatnot are paid for by taxes, but our taxation policies are quite different so we won’t get into that, lol.

See before; “I know you won’t answer any of that.”

If only you saw how childish your rhetoric is. I can actually show you. We’ll have a whole conversation about it, and I’ll teach you to use it better… after you reply to a simple yes or no question: Do you believe Russia has broken international law with their illegal war of aggression by invading Ukraine in February 2022?

Wait, defending genocide is seen as a bad thing?

faints in bootlicker

You guys genuinely can’t argue like adults, it’s very irritating.

I’ve not followed anyone around nor have I made any personal attacks. Is “are you pro-Russian?” a personal attack in your opinion? I guess we’ll find out.

Are you pro-Russian?

Do you believe Russia has broken international law with their illegal war of aggression by invading Ukraine in February 2022?

(And I know you won’t answer any of that, you’ll just continue with the garbage quality propaganda. Which is to say utilising shitty rhetoric to push your agenda. Ie the childish nature of your wannabe argument. I wish you could see just how ridiculous it is, but you’re genuinely not able to. If you were, you’d be too ashamed to write that, lol.)

It’s genuinely hard to imagine how large America is.

And Finland isn’t one of the tiny Central-European countries.

Driving from Fresno to Yellowstone is pretty much the distance it is to drive from where I live (Southern end of Finland) to the Northern end of Finland.

But yeah at the Northern end in Lapland it starts getting more like that, only a few roads going to the larger national parks. Here in the South you can just go around anything really, there’s backroads and footpaths everywhere. Like no matter how deep in the woods I go, I’d feel awkward taking a shit, since there’s always some dogwalkers to be met.

This makes me want to go hiking up North.

Genuine curiosity being read as “smug and mocking” is a bit troublesome I feel. I’ve just not traveled a lot. I know things, but I haven’t been there personally, and reading about Yellowstone, it doesn’t exactly highlight that some company controls access to it, more or less.

Thank you for the info on that though, seems horrible, and is exactly the type of behaviour our laws exist to prevent.

So by “limited access by road” you mean that “yes, there is a booth on every road leading there”?

So some company basically owns the rights to do that…? Have booths and whatnot on every road leading there?

It’s just… weird for me, is all.

I just don’t understand how you can “fee” Yellowstone or the Grand Canyon. Those places are huge.

You have a booth on every road?

I don’t believe there’s a single place like that in Finland, what with our everymans rights

Everyman’s rights are the right of every person to use nature regardless of who owns or controls the land. The use of nature within the limits set under the everyman’s rights therefore does not require the permission of the landowner and using the rights does not cost anything.

The term translates horribly into Finnish: “maankaltaistaminen”. “To make like Earth/ground/dirt” and “make like” as in “type”, not “form”.

So it could be like “earthlikening” instead of “terraforming”.

Which makes me think of this Wikipedia that’s written in the way they imagine English could’ve evolved if it wasn’t influenced by Latin.

https://anglish.fandom.com/wiki/Main_leaf

for instance their article on maths starts with:

Telcraft (scorelore, rimecraft or reckonlore) (English: Mathematics) is the smeying of scorings, or the recking of begrips such as score, room, shift, and forebuilding. Benjamin Peirce called it “the cunning which draws needful outcomes”.

Through foredeeming and wordlock mulling, scorelore arose from notching, reckoning, deeming, and the learning of sheathes and shapes.

Knowledge and note of fern scorelore have always been a spanning and a needful lifetool, as can be witnessed from orshafts of Egypt, Bearithland, Indland, China and Frodland. Furthermore, the Ishango bone is more than 20 thousand years old.

Titillating, isn’t it?

In Finland there is no trespassing on private property. Well, not if it’s not gated or your yard or something. And you can’t gate large pieces of land like that, so…

I understand that the nature is very different, for instance we have no mountains. So for me, I’m just thinking “just use another road”, but some places just have one road going there, I guess. Here, I’ll show my point:

I’ve highlighted the parks in yellow. Kansallispuisto = national park, luonnonpuisto = “nature park” (which sounds silly, I hear it). My point is that the trails in those areas start from a few places, and going to the national park, there’s several parkin places you can go to, and you can get to the areas from so many different places. And this isn’t a national park that requires any park rangers. I don’t even know if we have any, but if we do, they’re in the national parks which are up North in Lapland. This is a very small one. Just a big marsh with a lake in the center, essentially.

So you couldn’t really set up a gatehouse or a booth anywhere there.

I get the point about it being a cheap activity in general, but aside from parking, who do pay the money to? Is there like a ticket-booth at the start of some trail which you couldn’t reasonably get to walking from other places?

Hikes being extremely cheap and only needing to pay parking, usually.

Laughs in Finnish everymans rights.

You have to pay for hiking? Or you hike on trails where the only access is from a parking area that you have to pay for?

Seems ridiculous to me.

You’re entirely right.

But see if the political view is only held by members or a certain religious group (even if not all members of said religion accept said political thought), it’s easy to conflate it, so that you can ban anyone opposing said political thought based on “they’re discriminating against me because of my religion”.

Fuck twitch.

.ml has some trigger happy mods but nobody gets banned for criticizing the democratic party for supporting a genocide.

Oh you don’t get banned for going along with Russian propaganda? Wow, weird huh.

But then you do get banned for pointing out Russian propaganda.

Here.

That’s @davel@lemmy.ml pushing against BlueSky, spreading his usual bullshit links about “Nazis”. He thinks Ukraine is filled with Nazis and Russia was right to invade it. Now “BlueSky is filled with Nazis”

It doesn’t take a genius to suss this out, but that’s what the poorly educated Russians don’t get. Or they rely on Americans being equally stupid, which is a good bet, honestly.

But for people with a normal amount of media/political literacy? Lol.

In practice it lead to mega rich foreigners buying up all the water rights in Australia and preventing anyone from using them which created artificial scarcity and drove up prices. These mega rich foreigners then sold Australians their own water back to them at exorbitant prices.

Oh hey I’ve seen this movie

On something, yeah. On everything? No.